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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

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Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:30 pm to
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Just doin my part to get this baby to 200

Whats the Rant record?

Lets break the shite out of it and give Klarvin the boner he'll never forget.


The number of visitors to TexAgs has been floating above 25k today. No wonder the economy sucks.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:30 pm to
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It is already an un-level playing field. You think Rice will ever win a championship?


Rice could benefit from paying players because they have a big endowment and a lot of rich alumns.

It's schools like UTEP and Arkansas State that would be affected.

But make paying players legal and it will explode beyond anything you have imagined. It will be more than just "pay such and such player".
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:31 pm to
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How big did ATPB end up?


1800 to 2000 pages before it was locked. I think. That doesnt' count the die hards who created spin off threads after it was locked.
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:31 pm to
its just the perception of college athletics that makes it appealing...the passion of players playing a game they love and not getting paid. I agree it is essentially a minor league system but fans view it differently especially down south. And I also agree that players are getting paid under the table
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 4:32 pm
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:31 pm to
Paying players is stupid.

That is like saying its not fair that the CEO makes 10 million a year and the intern gets college credit. That internship is going to ultimately pay dividends in the future. These kids get all the advantages in the world, plus a free education. If you want to get paid, go to work. If you want a free education, and want noteriety and advantages that most people don't get in college, then play college football.

Entitlement. Its what is wrong with America. You aren't entitled to shite.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61438 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:33 pm to
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That is like saying its not fair that the CEO makes 10 million a year and the intern gets college credit. That internship is going to ultimately pay dividends in the future.




no it isnt!

on top of that its now law that you have to pay interns.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:33 pm to
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Paying players is not progress, would set NCAA football/basketball back

I agree.

+1

If you package the benefits they receive - tuition, room, board, workout facilities, tutors, healthcare, private cafeteria, etc - they're getting paid pretty well. If you add any monetary compensation to this package, it has to be limited and capped across the board. And any violations would have to be dealt with very harshly. Otherwise, you have more corruption that the system can handle. And you lose what makes college football unique.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36491 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:34 pm to
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I agree it is essentially a minor league system but fans view it differently especially down south


Fans wouldn't act any different if the NCAA tomorrow allowed paying players.

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36491 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:35 pm to
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Otherwise, you have more corruption that the system can handle.




You say that as if the system isn't already handling gigantic masses of it right now.
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:36 pm to
I agree numbers wouldn't go down but perception would definitely change.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36491 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:37 pm to
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I agree numbers wouldn't go down but perception would definitely change.


Sure the perception would change, but that's about all that would from the fan perspective.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40100 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:37 pm to
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no it isnt!

on top of that its now law that you have to pay interns.


since when i need some back pay?
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:38 pm to
Anybody ever heard of this "John Manzell" character?
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34454 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:38 pm to
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Whats the Rant record?



Over 2000 pages

ATPB will never be touched

Don't even try. We went HAM
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 4:39 pm
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:38 pm to
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I hate this for TAMU, but unless they knew about it or tried to cover it up they should be in the clear.

Sumlin saying that he'd just heard about it makes more sense now.
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:38 pm to
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no it isnt! on top of that its now law that you have to pay interns.


How many internships can you get that will pay for your college, books, insurance, food, housing, will put you on television, will provide you with a top notch personal trainer, nutritionist, state of the art healthcare equipment, and give you a platform to possibly making millions right out of college?
Posted by geauxranger54
Hoover, Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
1158 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:40 pm to
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I hate this for TAMU, but unless they knew about it or tried to cover it up they should be in the clear. Sumlin saying that he'd just heard about it makes more sense now.


I would distance the school from this guy at this point.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61438 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:41 pm to
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How many internships can you get that will pay for your college, books, insurance, food, housing, will put you on television, will provide you with a top notch personal trainer, nutritionist, state of the art healthcare equipment, and give you a platform to possibly making millions right out of college?


meanwhile A&M is building a $500 million stadium.

a year to year scholarship is totally fair compensation for that?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36491 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:42 pm to
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I would distance the school from this guy at this point.


Depends on when they "found out". If it was after the Cotton Bowl, it doesn't matter. They didn't play an ineligible player. Even if they knew before, that's all they did. It's not like they were paying his HS coach 250k to send him to College Station.
Posted by FuddSandersJr
Member since Jul 2013
1648 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 4:43 pm to
I still think Manziel gets a 4 game suspension and pay back the money. He'll be back in time for A&M to beat Arkansas.
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