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re: Arkie Wins..... Then the Goal Posts Come Down

Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by LSUChicageaux
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:33 pm to
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diskintent is what happens to LSUChicageaux's pants after his cousin leaves the room
Joke's on him; I'm wearing a skirt to look more like Grandma. Oh look someone made Percocet Puffs.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:33 pm to
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I was at the Citadel game, where we lost and Jack Crowe was fired the following Monday. I didn't go back to a football game for 5 years.



What a shitty fricking fan you are

Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:35 pm to
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I guess that's debatable but even then the 90's are the sole decade in which LSU wasn't a top 15 program at worst so it's moot as far as this conversation is concerned.


It was an aside. Reason I ask, integration completely changed the landscape and schools that were competative/dominant have completely fallen by the wayside. (of course LSU is not one of those teams)

The 90s were terrible for LSU, the program under performed.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:36 pm to
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2002 doesn't count. You finished 2nd in the West.


In the context of "SEC title game appearance", yeah it does we were there...
Posted by SLC
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:37 pm to
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LSUChicageaux


This guy's starting to grow on me.
Posted by Vivalatigers
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:37 pm to
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What a shitty fricking fan you are


+10000
Posted by SLC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:38 pm to
What can I say, I was a teenager and I was pissed.

(and I worked on Saturdays, but I was still pissed)
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:38 pm to
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It was an aside. Reason I ask, integration completely changed the landscape and schools that were competative/dominant have completely fallen by the wayside. (of course LSU is not one of those teams)


It was definitely a different era. Of all the things that changed that game that was probably the biggest. I don't think it "shouldn't count" though. Recruits can see that Minnesota's 5 National Titles doesn't reflect the current state of that program, but they did finish #1 in those polls so who is anyone to say it's not legit? Also, where would you draw the line? Some areas integrated much earlier than others.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:41 pm to
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What can I say, I was a teenager and I was pissed.


that's a little better I guess.

I distinctively remember sitting in a half empty tiger stadium when we got drilled by Florida in 1993. I was 12 years old. Same thing happened in 1998. We lost to Houston in 99 and UAB in 2000. Those were terrible losses but it taught me a very valuable lesson about enjoying a win, regardless of the opponent. I can honestly say I never take a win for granted.
Posted by SLC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:42 pm to
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It was definitely a different era. Of all the things that changed that game that was probably the biggest. I don't think it "shouldn't count" though. Recruits can see that Minnesota's 5 National Titles doesn't reflect the current state of that program, but they did finish #1 in those polls so who is anyone to say it's not legit? Also, where would you draw the line? Some areas integrated much earlier than others.


I agree, and Minnesota was one of the examples I was thinking of.

I don't think we draw a line, I just appreciate the game. Whether it's the hogs, the Iron Bowl or watching Big X football. I enjoy it, certainly not an expert though.

Capstone said once that it is wrong (I'm paraphrasing here) that we can't draw a line b/c it is a disservice to those who played on those teams. I tend to agree.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:44 pm to
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TideSports refugee, eh?
hell no. i fled that place in '07 brah. I pop in occasionally but it just blows.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:46 pm to
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Capstone said once that it is wrong (I'm paraphrasing here) that we can't draw a line b/c it is a disservice to those who played on those teams. I tend to agree.


Well in his case I'm sure he's referring to Alabama's pre-1961 titles. All of them "occurred" prior to the advent of the AP or any other legitimate way of ranking teams. Nobody on any of those Alabama teams ever considered themselves a "National Champion" as such a concept was totally foreign to the era. This is a big part of the reason LSU claims neither 1908 nor 1935 as title years, even though we very easily could. I would say if you're going to draw a line, draw it at 1936.

It was Bear's idea to start claiming those as "National Titles" some time in the late 60's/early 70's. I have seen pictures of their celebration of the schools "third" NC in 1965
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 8:48 pm
Posted by SLC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:46 pm to
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that's a little better I guess.

I distinctively remember sitting in a half empty tiger stadium when we got drilled by Florida in 1993. I was 12 years old. Same thing happened in 1998. We lost to Houston in 99 and UAB in 2000. Those were terrible losses but it taught me a very valuable lesson about enjoying a win, regardless of the opponent. I can honestly say I never take a win for granted.


The other thing about me, I'm first generation college graduate. Saturdays and Sundays were for work growing up, games were something for kids.

I understand what you mean about taking a win for granted. One of my best friends is an LSU fan (he's the one that introduced me to Tiger Droppings) and he always marvels at the arrogance of the younger LSU (and the negatigers) fans saying they do not appreciate what LSU is experiencing right now. This is a guy who knows football too, he played in college and was AA for his level.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:51 pm to
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and he always marvels at the arrogance of the younger LSU (and the negatigers) fans saying they do not appreciate what LSU is experiencing right now. This is a guy who knows football too, he played in college and was AA for his level


There is a sharp divide between the older LSU fans and the younger. I for one believe the older fans misunderstand the position of the younger fans. Most of us grew up in the Hallman/Dinardo eras, never having experienced LSU even so much as make a bowl game. We understand now that to maintain a great program you must always keep yout standards high, and when the fans start accepting mediocrity, that's what they will get. You have to have the attitude of a New York Yankees if you ever want your team to get there. It's not arrogance, it's understanding how perception of what your program is can help shape its reality.
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:52 pm to
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I think SO???


For what? Beating a team we are accustom to beating?
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:54 pm to
Each to their own Alude. First of all, if that happens, it's like making the statement that it's a really, really, BIG win. ...and it would be, but I expect us to win anyway.

LSU isn't a rival and I don't want our friends in the mustard and purple to think that we consider them a rival. Hogs don't play rivals. Texas isn't even our rival, we just hate 'em.

Posted by Tmon225
Member since Jun 2009
7250 posts
Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:57 pm to
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For what? Beating a team we are accustom to beating


Jordan Jefferson 1-0 vs Ryan Mallett.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:57 pm to
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We understand now that to maintain a great program you must always keep yout standards high, and when the fans start accepting mediocrity, that's what they will get. You have to have the attitude of a New York Yankees if you ever want your team to get there. It's not arrogance, it's understanding how perception of what your program is can help shape its reality.


I get that part, it's creating and maintaining the brand.

That's really what is behind Arkansas's removal of Hootie and Broyles. Both felt Arkansas would never be competetive at a high level. The fanbase wants to change that, or at least a portion of us do.

We'll see, it has to start somewhere.
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
10749 posts
Posted on 11/22/10 at 8:58 pm to
What are you going to do with those goal posts? Satisfy your sister? Nothing says 2nd tier like tearing down goal posts.

Since the state of Arkansas has no recruiting base, they can only live for the pleasure of screwing up the season of one of the real players in the SEC. Petrino would change his name to Petrineaux to get the LSU job, where he would actually have a chance to win something.

Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/22/10 at 9:00 pm to
Now back to flaming Arkansas.

Do the corndog fans really think Alude is serious?
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