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re: Arkansas Fans: respond to Brad Edwards latest comment
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:16 pm to bbap
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:16 pm to bbap
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i know that. you know that. brad edwards knows that. and even said as much in the post you quoted. everyone knows that. so i guess the real question is...what is the purpose of your post? to tell us all (including brad edwards) something we already knew?
The OP put it in a format that insinuated that Edwards was confused by bracketing the event of an Alabama loss with discussion of three way tie scenarios. Edwards is a fairly eloquent guy, and wouldn't sound like that rantarded quotation, though it is exactly the sort of thing you see requoted later verbatim.
An ounce of prevention now is worth a pound of curing rantarded repetition later.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:16 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:This is exactly right.
LSU will not receive 1 single vote over Arkansas in human polls with a loss to them.
Since this is hypothetical, I need an LSU fan to please explain to me how a, what would then be 11-1 Arky with a win over the #1 ranked LSU team would remain at #3? Or are you saying that with an Arky win it will be #1 Arky, #2 LSU, and #3 Bama, which I guess is possible but not likely? Because if you're saying that if you lose to Arky it will be #1 Bama, #2 LSU, #3 Arky or #1 LSU, #2 Arky, #3 Bama, well that's just stupid. NO WAY that happens.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:17 pm to woopiginaustin
quote:What will the voting look like then? Bama-Arky-LSU? If not a single vote could go for LSU over Arky, why do you think a single vote could go for Bama over LSU?
In 2/3 of the polling, Arkansas will be ahead of LSU. LSU will not have a single fricking #1 vote. Not one.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:18 pm to KPCrimson
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Because if you're saying that if you lose to Arky it will be #1 Bama, #2 LSU, #3 Arky or #1 LSU, #2 Arky, #3 Bama, well that's just stupid. NO WAY that happens.
actually there is a very good chance it falls out
bama
lsu
arkansas
in the bcs on sunday even if arkansas wins. if you cant grasp that you dont know how the bcs works.
take a look at oklahoma state. currently #6 in the humans polls. #4 in the BCS.
why...becuase of their computer score.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:18 pm to NaturalBeam
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why do you think a single vote could go for Bama over LSU?
Because, for some stupid reason, it's not how you lose...it's when you lose.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:19 pm to KPCrimson
quote:I would think it would be Bama (50% 1st place votes), LSU (30% 1st place votes), and Arky (20% 1st place votes) - computers would then kick in and have LSU-Bama-Arky as 1-2-3, with Bama going to the SECCG
Since this is hypothetical, I need an LSU fan to please explain to me how a, what would then be 11-1 Arky with a win over the #1 ranked LSU team would remain at #3? Or are you saying that with an Arky win it will be #1 Arky, #2 LSU, and #3 Bama, which I guess is possible but not likely? Because if you're saying that if you lose to Arky it will be #1 Bama, #2 LSU, #3 Arky or #1 LSU, #2 Arky, #3 Bama, well that's just stupid. NO WAY that happens.
*Even switch LSU and Arky at 2-3 in the polls - the votes will be close enough that our computer advantage would push us ahead
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:20 pm to NaturalBeam
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I would think it would be Bama (50% 1st place votes), LSU (30% 1st place votes), and Arky (20% 1st place votes) - computers would then kick in and have LSU-Bama-Arky as 1-2-3, with Bama going to the SECCG
very possible except LSU would go the SECCG. Not bama.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:20 pm to ShreveportHog94
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LSU will not receive 1 single vote over Arkansas in human polls with a loss to them. Not 1. That is 2/3 of the equation. Ok St is #2 in the computers and look at where they are. LSU has 0 chance staying ahead of Arkansas with a loss and it's a fricking fact.
oh Lord

Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:21 pm to NaturalBeam
quote:Dude, seriously??? Because that's how college football works. The later you lose, the worse it is. Have you ever watched college football? I mean, I've had to read on this board for 2 weeks now why Oregon should be in a rematch with LSU over Bama because we "WERE AT HOME!!! OH THE HORROR!!!" and how Oregon lost early and has improved.
What will the voting look like then? Bama-Arky-LSU? If not a single vote could go for LSU over Arky, why do you think a single vote could go for Bama over LSU?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:21 pm to NaturalBeam
Again, in 2/3 of polls Arkansas will be ahead of LSU.
There has never been a single instance in history that the #3 team won at #1, and #1 stayed ahead of the team that it just lost to. It has never happened.
That leaves the other 1/3.
Even in a worst case scenario for Arkansas, we are the BCS #2.
I can't emphasize enough how little I care about going to a BCSNC play-in game with Georgia. I'm fine going to the BCSNC and not playing for the conference title.
There has never been a single instance in history that the #3 team won at #1, and #1 stayed ahead of the team that it just lost to. It has never happened.
That leaves the other 1/3.
Even in a worst case scenario for Arkansas, we are the BCS #2.
I can't emphasize enough how little I care about going to a BCSNC play-in game with Georgia. I'm fine going to the BCSNC and not playing for the conference title.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:21 pm to woopiginaustin
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Arkansas will split the #1 votes with Bama
How many did Arkansas lose by to Bama?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:22 pm to NaturalBeam
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LSU (30% 1st place votes)
No way.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:22 pm to woopiginaustin
How dense are LSU fans?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:22 pm to woopiginaustin
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Again, in 2/3 of polls Arkansas will be ahead of LSU.
do you even understand how the human polls work?
It's not cut and dry you are 2/3 ahead in the polls. If you think that then that is why you dont understand the BCS.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:22 pm to KPCrimson
quote:If you just would've told me that you're stupid earlier, I wouldn't have had to waste my time.
Dude, seriously??? Because that's how college football works. The later you lose, the worse it is. Have you ever watched college football? I mean, I've had to read on this board for 2 weeks now why Oregon should be in a rematch with LSU over Bama because we "WERE AT HOME!!! OH THE HORROR!!!" and how Oregon lost early and has improved.
ALL 3 teams will get 1st place votes if Arky beats LSU, in a relatively close game. ALL 3 teams.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:23 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Ok St is #2 in the computers and look at where they are.
Correct
Ok State is #2 in the computers and are #4 in the BCS while being ranked 6th in 2/3 human votes. So with LSU having a vastly superior computer score than Ark, even with a loss we will jump you. What people don't realize is the formula breaks down actual votes not poll location.
What's puzzling me is what took Edwards so long to finally determine this.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:23 pm to woopiginaustin
quote:It doesn't matter if you're ahead, it matters how far you're ahead dipshit.
Again, in 2/3 of polls Arkansas will be ahead of LSU.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:24 pm to bbap
i don't blame arky fans for not understanding how this works....they're new to all this
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:24 pm to bbap
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If you think that then that is why you dont understand the BCS.
Don't act like anyone knows how the BCS works.
The guy getting paid millions doesn't even know what's going on.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:25 pm to FootballHog
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The guy getting paid millions doesn't even know what's going on.
who would that be?
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