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re: Arkansas fans, Little Rock?
Posted on 10/12/11 at 10:49 am to songofthesword
Posted on 10/12/11 at 10:49 am to songofthesword
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And for all of the NWA folks who shite on little rock games, maybe if you would get off your asses every once in a while and made it a half decent game environment, it would be alot easier to make the decision. i've seen more action/excitement at golf tourneys then some of the razoerback games.
Ahhhh the crowd argument. How many of those "less than stellar crowds" did you experience with Houston Nutt as the coach? I'll tell you this much. In the past 5 years the crowds in Fayetteville have come full circle. They're significantly better than they used to be and I can't see the noise being any louder given the physics involved with having an open north end zone. Georgia 2009, Auburn 2009, Bama 2010, Auburn 2011...all of those games had amazing crowds. Bama 2010 is the best crowd I've ever been apart of.
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they need to simply cut Little Rock to 1 conference game. cutting LR to one non conference game just isn't fair.
Eventually, LR will have ZERO conference games. It's just a matter of time and any realistic person could see that. So, instead of cutting ties now and pocketing extra revenue which could lead to better facilities and better recruits and, subsequently, a better team...let's keep playing games in LR!
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little rock isn't the most propserous place on earth and unlike alot of schools, it's a state in which the entire state is behind ONE team. no NFL teams, no other in state college rivals.
What does LR's wealth have to do with anything? And if the state was truly behind ONE team, they'd continue to support that team regardless of where the games were played. The 1 team argument, if anything, supports moving all the games to Fayetteville since it's in the best interest of the program.
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Lots of people can't make the trip up to F'ville who can put together enough money for a ticket to a little rock game.
I'll continue to say this until it starts clicking, but evidently no one in Arkansas is too concerned with their OWN finances. If you have to limit yourself THAT much, from a budget perspective, perhaps you shouldn't be spending what little money you may have on a football ticket. This state needs to be more concerned with saving for their children's education than making it to one game in LR every year (which, by the way, 20000 less people get to attend).
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Posted on 10/12/11 at 10:57 am to ocelot4ark
The LSU game is played over the Thanksgiving holiday and the students are off campus.
As far as NWA winning the booster money battle, consider the fact that the Stephens group based in Little Rock is the largest off Wall Street firm in the nation and that family has loads of money. He pulled alot of his support years ago when they took the basketball team out of Little Rock and decreased the number of football games.
I go to games at both stadiums. Fayetteville is infinitely nicer to watch a game, but Little Rock is much rowdier and has infinitely better tailgating unless you are one of the priveledged wealthy that can afford a spot in the pit.
All that said I think the real reason LSU is played in Little Rock is to keep the dirty coon arse riff raff out of Fayetteville.
As far as NWA winning the booster money battle, consider the fact that the Stephens group based in Little Rock is the largest off Wall Street firm in the nation and that family has loads of money. He pulled alot of his support years ago when they took the basketball team out of Little Rock and decreased the number of football games.
I go to games at both stadiums. Fayetteville is infinitely nicer to watch a game, but Little Rock is much rowdier and has infinitely better tailgating unless you are one of the priveledged wealthy that can afford a spot in the pit.
All that said I think the real reason LSU is played in Little Rock is to keep the dirty coon arse riff raff out of Fayetteville.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 10:57 am to ocelot4ark
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ocelot4ark
You a lawyer? If not you should be.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:01 am to ocelot4ark
If the LSU game was in Fayetteville, where all conference games should be played, we would no longer here LSU fans bitch about our state. Ya'll would love Fayetteville I guarentee. A hell of a lot better than Little Rock. There has been so much money poured into NWA it is unbelievable. We need to get it done somehow. Give Little Rock a decent OOC game if we have to, but all SEC games need to be played on campus.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:10 am to ronnielee54
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Give Little Rock a decent OOC game if we have to, but all SEC games need to be played on campus.
THIS I would be fine with. Replace Troy with a marginal BCS team every year, so to speak. I don't know...someone at the level of, say, Texas Tech or NC State. It'd be a good opponent early in the season to prepare us for an inevitable early season matchup with Bama.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:11 am to songofthesword
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And for all of the NWA folks who shite on little rock games, maybe if you would get off your asses every once in a while and made it a half decent game environment, it would be alot easier to make the decision. i've seen more action/excitement at golf tourneys then some of the razoerback games.
As Ocelot stated, when we actually play a decent opponent in Fayetteville its loud as frick.
As for the students off campus BS, if we're playing LSU in Fayetteville those frickers can drive their happy asses back up here like they do every other time of the year. Most people that go to school here can still make it in 3-4 hrs max. If you consider yourself a fan you're making that game. Tons of people from NWA drive to LR for it every year, so I don't want to hear that stupid shite ever again
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:11 am to trillhog
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You a lawyer? If not you should be.
Always wanted to be, but I'm too lazy. I couldn't stomach the thought of going to school any longer than I already did just to get a Bachelor's.
But I'll take it as a compliment, regardless if you actually meant it that way!
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:14 am to ocelot4ark
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THIS I would be fine with. Replace Troy with a marginal BCS team every year, so to speak. I don't know...someone at the level of, say, Texas Tech or NC State. It'd be a good opponent early in the season to prepare us for an inevitable early season matchup with Bama.
IMO we should just rotate OM/MSU as the perm SEC game in LR and be done with it. Those are the two teams that we play every year and neither draws much excitement in most years, so play it in LR
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:17 am to Hubbhogg
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Tons of people from NWA drive to LR for it every year, so I don't want to hear that stupid shite ever again
I'm alright with wherever they want to play the games, but since you just made the most idiotic comment of the year I feel compelled to address it.
Many more people drive from central Arkansas to NWA for games than the other way around. Not only for each game, but there are more games in Fayetteville so that multiplies it even further. I won't argue it anymore, but that was just frickin stupid.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:18 am to Buster Womb
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I'm alright with wherever they want to play the games, but since you just made the most idiotic comment of the year I feel compelled to address it.
Many more people drive from central Arkansas to NWA for games than the other way around. Not only for each game, but there are more games in Fayetteville so that multiplies it even further. I won't argue it anymore, but that was just frickin stupid.
Did I say more than drive up you fricking tard? I said a ton, I bet at least 10k of that stadium is NWA residents every time they play in LR so go frick yourself
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:19 am to Buster Womb
FYI - Stephens had a nice break when it was chosen, largely b/c it was located in AR, to take a little retailer from Bemtonville public.
I am a NWA snob but am fine leaving a couple games a year in LR. Our program needs support from the entire state and there are some boosters in Central AR who would pull $$$ from the program if they don't get their way. All I ask is that they donate enough $$$ to make up for the lost revenue.
I also want to keep a couple game in LR because it may allow some kid a chance to attend a game he/she might not get to attend. Let's do everything we can to provide as many kids as possible an opportunity to grow up Razorback fans.
I am a NWA snob but am fine leaving a couple games a year in LR. Our program needs support from the entire state and there are some boosters in Central AR who would pull $$$ from the program if they don't get their way. All I ask is that they donate enough $$$ to make up for the lost revenue.
I also want to keep a couple game in LR because it may allow some kid a chance to attend a game he/she might not get to attend. Let's do everything we can to provide as many kids as possible an opportunity to grow up Razorback fans.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:23 am to Buster Womb
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Many more people drive from central Arkansas to NWA for games than the other way around. Not only for each game, but there are more games in Fayetteville so that multiplies it even further. I won't argue it anymore, but that was just frickin stupid.
Considering the population #s and composition, more fans from Central Ark should make it to Fayetteville.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:26 am to SLC
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I am a NWA snob but am fine leaving a couple games a year in LR.
Logistically, it won't be possible if we're going to have the game in Jerryworld through 2019. What would you prefer? A $5MM payout in Arlington every year, or having those games in LR? That's what they'll have to decide. But they cannot have 2 conference "home" games away from Fayetteville every other year. THAT is frickin' retarded with the palace Broyles built sitting up in the Ozarks going unused.
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Our program needs support from the entire state and there are some boosters in Central AR who would pull $$$ from the program if they don't get their way. All I ask is that they donate enough $$$ to make up for the lost revenue.
We're essentially catering to terrorists. "Play games in LR or I'll stop donating!" Seriously. Think about it. They are blackmailing the university with that bullshite. You're either a fan/supporter of the university of arkansas or you aren't. There's no caveat. There's no "conditions for support." I don't want to associate with the kind of selfish, old money blowhards that exhibit that kind of audacity. Actually, I'm ashamed that we allow it.
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I also want to keep a couple game in LR because it may allow some kid a chance to attend a game he/she might not get to attend. Let's do everything we can to provide as many kids as possible an opportunity to grow up Razorback fans.
In that case, expand the stadium. Or let's pass out TVs and dish network to every kid in Arkansas. Come on, man. The university sells itself. "Woe is me. We're just arkansas. We have to resort to gimmicks to keep our kids instate."
Man the frick up and PRETEND like you're proud of the University of Arkansas and maybe, just maybe, we'll shake off this inferiority complex that runs rampant in regards to the attitude of our SEC brethren.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:31 am to ocelot4ark
I use to share your position but changed. The aTm game dies complicate the issue, but my general premise was for the Central Ark donors to donate enough (above and beyond their normal donation) to cover the lost revenue.
With the ESPN contract, almost anyone in AR can watch the game. That's another consideration.
With the ESPN contract, almost anyone in AR can watch the game. That's another consideration.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:32 am to ocelot4ark
Well said ocelot4ark
This post was edited on 10/12/11 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:33 am to ocelot4ark
BTW, I am proud of the University (flagship) and support it well. My position does not compromise that support.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 11:53 am to SLC
Posted on 10/12/11 at 12:04 pm to WonderWartHawg
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The Razorbacks HAD to play in LR way back in the day if they were going to make any money at all. Financial support from Central Arkansas enabled the program to grow. Playing games in LR was a tradition even before War Memorial Stadium was built, they played a good number of games at Quigley Stadium, which is still being used by LR Central H.S.
Razorback Stadium in Fayetteville didn't have lights for the field until the 1970's, therefore only daytime games were played there. That's the reason a lot of games were in Little Rock during the 50's, 60's, and part of the 70's.
Posted on 10/12/11 at 12:52 pm to lsutiger2
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why do yall play LSU in Little Rock instead of Fayetville?
1. Because LSU hates Little Rock so bad.
2. Fayetteville Arkansas is a very clean city. Little Rock stinks more fitting for the Corndog eaters.
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