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re: Are the Ole Miss rankings for real?

Posted on 6/9/09 at 9:58 am to
Posted by starlight
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 9:58 am to
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IF the Nutt gets a little lucky and just for argument sake say OM wins the west (please God no) the Piggy fans will have a friggin meltdown


Is this right here not worth us winning the west?
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:00 am to
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starlight



you tell em girl , honestly i think ole miss is legit this year
Posted by starlight
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:04 am to
Thanks Brendoni, I knew I liked you. How have you been.

I think we have the best shot at winning it that we have had since Eli left. I think we should be competitive for at least the next 3 years. I just can't go back to losing all the time. Haha.

Also I know the guy Nutt is recruiting at center. He is playing at PRC this year because Nutt was trying to get him to walk on. He is hoping for an athletic scholarship in January and will transfer then. He is a good kid and a big boy.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:04 am to
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This is a tough one for me...My heart says "Ross is the man and I agree with everything"...my head says that their "home games" are not gimmies...I'm saying 8-4 max


We might have to agree to disagree, but I see 8 wins easy on that schedule, and the remainder of their games are pretty much tossups.
Posted by shanksta13
Member since Jul 2008
127 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:09 am to
Here's a decent article on Ole Miss and the rankings and expectations. Basically on whether or not they're overrated.

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I've heard alot of talk around the SEC over the past week about Ole Miss and whether or not they will live up to expectations in 2009.

One of the main themes going around is that Houston Nutt isn't nearly as effective when his team has a target on his back. Another is that Georgia couldn't live up to the expectations in 2008 and that the Rebels will suffer a similar fate next season.

I'm going to take a stab at playing the Devil's Advocate here and debunking a few of these ideas.

First off, let me go ahead and acknowledge the similarities between 2009 Ole Miss and 2008 Georgia.

Both were riding the coattails of a strong finish to the previous season, perhaps accounting for their high ranking. Georgia slaughtered undefeated Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl, while Ole Miss dismantled Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl. Both had or have great quarterbacks entering the season who are proven leaders in the Southeastern Conference. Both have good defenses and good playmakers at the skill positions.

Now let's talk a little bit more about some of these points.


Read the rest here: Comparisons between 2009 Ole Miss and 2008 Georgia unwarranted and unfair
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:09 am to
I think OM should be ranked in the Top Ten. Schedule is perfect for them. This is the year for OM. Nutt can't screw this up.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:10 am to
Georgia still finished with 10 wins, and many people were thinking they would fail in the preseason due to a variety of factors.
Posted by dawgorama
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:10 am to
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They will be this years uga. All hype and no deliever.


More like this years LSU...you were pretty hyped last year to...and your team sucked arse.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22225 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:14 am to
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Thanks Brendoni, I knew I liked you. How have you been.


..i've been good, you? i just don't see how people can say they are coming out of nowhere when they finished the season 6-0, beat florida, and could have beaten bama.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:15 am to
I see a major difference between "Top 5 Talent", which I do not believe they are anywhere near, and "Easiest Schedule in the SEC", which they clearly have.

Will Old Piss win 8 to 10 regular season games and by default end the season with a decent ranking? Sure! They have a cupcake schedule. Hard not to.

Are they currently more talented than over 110 D1 teams? Hell no.
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:20 am to
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The only thing I hear is that they fired their defensive coordinators, which isn't that big of a selling point for me.


We fired:
2 clowns with no legitimate coaching credentials to speak of

We hired:
A guy with 14 years of SEC DC experience.
A secondary coach who put more CB's into the NFL than anyone should ever do at South Carolina.
A DL coach with legitimate NFL experience.

If that's not a selling point for you, then no one can help you.

Speaking of selling points, I'm not convinced Auburn will ever be relevant again.
This post was edited on 6/9/09 at 10:22 am
Posted by King Mello
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
475 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:22 am to
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I agree wholeheartedly. I have yet to hear one legitimate reason why LSU should be any better this year than they were last year.

The only thing I hear is that they fired their defensive coordinators, which isn't that big of a selling point for me.

Ole Miss, on the other hand, probably deserves to be ranked somewhere around #10.


top 5 recruiting class added to already one of the most talented rosters in the SEC, entirely new coaching staff, another year of experience for either QB, returning 2 RBs for their senior season and you see no reason for this team to improve?.. ok
Posted by starlight
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:25 am to
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.i've been good, you?


Good spent most of last week trying to catch work back up and adjust back to the real world. How do I go about finding out how much my little drunken phone call from ST Thomas is going to cost me?

Only time will tell if Ole Miss can live up to the hype, but the mentality of the fans are that we proved ourselves last year and are going to have to do it again because people still don't see us as legit. And you know that Nutt loves coming in as the underdog. Yes we are ranked but the majority of people are not going to take us serious.
Posted by dawgorama
Member since Jun 2004
14690 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:29 am to
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A guy with 14 years of SEC DC experience.


Last 5 years for him have been up and down:

2004- Scoring Defense #7 in SEC
Total Defense #7 in SEC
2005- Scoring Defense #5 in SEC
Total Defense #3 in SEC
2006- Scoring Defense #8 in SEC
Total Defense #8 in SEC
2007- Scoring Defense #10 in SEC
Total Defense #11 in SEC
2008- Scoring Defense #3 in SEC
Total Defense #1 in SEC

Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:30 am to
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If that's not a selling point for you, then no one can help you.


Chavis has been the very definition of inconsistent in the past 7 years or so.

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top 5 recruiting class added to already one of the most talented rosters in the SEC,


That talent didn't help all that much last year, did it?
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entirely new coaching staff,
See above
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another year of experience for either QB,


We are all fearing that JJ/JL pain train, no doubt

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returning 2 RBs for their senior season and you see no reason for this team to improve?.. ok


You also lose:
Demetrius Byrd
Quinn Johnson
Brett Helms
Herman Johnson
Colt David
Darry Beckwith
Marlon Favorite
Tyson Jackson
Kriston Pittman
Ricky Jean-Francois

Among others.


quote:

Speaking of selling points, I'm not convinced Auburn will ever be relevant again.


Well, that just makes you retarded.
This post was edited on 6/9/09 at 10:35 am
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:34 am to
dawgorama,

I wish our fans would use other tactics when discussing teams that beat us LAST year. He could have just said injuries on the OL really set UGA back, and that it is hard to foresee those types of injuries. So, UGA had a hard time living up to everone else's expectations.



Back on topic,

quote:


Last 5 years for him have been up and down:

2004- Scoring Defense #7 in SEC
Total Defense #7 in SEC
2005- Scoring Defense #5 in SEC
Total Defense #3 in SEC
2006- Scoring Defense #8 in SEC
Total Defense #8 in SEC
2007- Scoring Defense #10 in SEC
Total Defense #11 in SEC
2008- Scoring Defense #3 in SEC
Total Defense #1 in SEC



Again I would like to reiterate. This isn't the same defensive staff he had with him at TN.

Yes, they could be better or they could be worse. We'll have to see.

Posted by King Mello
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
475 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Chavis has been the very definition of inconsistent in the past 7 years or so.


Tennessee in general has been the definition of inconsistent the last 7 years.. yea lets blame the DC for an entire program's demise
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:36 am to
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Tennessee in general has been the definition of inconsistent the last 7 years.. yea lets blame the DC for an entire program's demise


Not the program, the defensive unit of that program.
Posted by dawgorama
Member since Jun 2004
14690 posts
Posted on 6/9/09 at 10:37 am to
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Tennessee in general has been the definition of inconsistent the last 7 years.. yea lets blame the DC for an entire program's demise


Well he should be blamed for their defense when it sucks, right? It's not like it's been stellar that entire time. I think he's a good DC, but maybe folks have figured him out a bit.
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