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re: AP National Champions By State This Century
Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:57 pm to captdalton
Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:57 pm to captdalton
Congrats on cheating. Now, everyone can pay players. How is the state of Alabama doing now that their wallets have to compete with billionaires from real states?
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:59 pm to captdalton
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There isn’t someone there who decides what gets posted? It is like wikipedia where anyone can just post any content they want?
I don't think so. They just list whatever schools claim.
If there is a standard or whatever, I'd love to know what it is. I see people often say "The NCAA recognizes" and that makes it official. I use to think the same thing for awhile, but then I realized - there is no actual standard, they just list whatever teams claim.
The way I consider NC as legit or not is before 1936 I recognize math/rosebowl and undefeated. Or just none at all would be fine, but everyone claims those and it's like whatever.
From 1936 until the BCS started, AP and Coaches are legitimate claims, even if split.
But after the BCS starts, only BCS titles are legitimate, the other polls are not IMO. The Coaches poll is in agreement to put the winner of that at #1, that's what the crystal ball trophy is. The AP cried and left over USCw.
And then of course that's now playoff titles.
A real standard would look something like that.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:02 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Congrats on cheating. Now, everyone can pay players. How is the state of Alabama doing now that their wallets have to compete with billionaires from real states?
Top3 in recruiting every year of the NIL thus far.
Lack of talent is not our issue, lack of talent putting in the work required to be elite is.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:04 pm to 3down10
So if I send the NCAA an email saying that I claim Alabama as national champion in 1971 and 1975 they will list Alabama as national champion for those years? That seems to be what you are saying.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:04 pm to captdalton
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You are on the same side of this issue as TN Tygah.
That is a bad spot to find oneself.
Huh?
He's wrong. Alabama was the NC in 2020.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:07 pm to captdalton
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So if I send the NCAA an email saying that I claim Alabama as national champion in 1971 and 1975 they will list Alabama as national champion for those years? That seems to be what you are saying.
Do you represent the University?
They do articles like this all the time. The one you linked is much better than most of them, I'll give it that much credit. But it's not an official list or anything else.
At least this time they aren't listing 2017 UCF, so their writers are getting a little better.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:07 pm to captdalton
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You are on the same side of this issue as TN Tygah.
That is a bad spot to find oneself.
Damn
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:15 pm to 3down10
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Do you represent the University?
Why would that matter? You just said there were no standards.
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The NCAA will basically publish anything anyone wants to claim. There is no system, checklist or standards for deciding what gets published.
I want to claim 1971 and 1975 as Alabama national championships.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:27 pm to captdalton
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Why would that matter? You just said there were no standards.
I said they will list anything anyone, aka the schools, claim.
I'm not going to keep arguing with you. I'll wait for you to show me the standards and guidelines/rules the NCAA has set for deciding these things.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:30 pm to captdalton
SMU has two with the pony express in the early 80's, those teams were nasty with Eric Dickerson
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:40 pm to 3down10
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I'll wait for you to show me the standards and guidelines/rules the NCAA has set for deciding these things.
In this case they simply listed who the different awarding parties recognized as the national champions each year. So the standard was that a school had to have been awarded a national championship by a major recognized organization to be listed as national champion. That was the standard.
If the NCAA really just listed whoever they wanted, like you are arguing, then they would list Alabama as national champions in 1971 and 1975. I mean, why wouldn’t they? They would list a lot of schools who feel they have a claim. But they don’t. I listed both the AP and the BCS winners. The NCAA is not changing that, they simply compiled them all in one list. And in every year but one since 2000, they were all the same.
I am not sure where you get the idea that the NCAA will just list anything anyone wants. It is clear that the standard in this case is that to be listed as AP national champion, the AP had to vote a team as the AP national champion. And to be BCS national champion, a team had to win the BCS national championship game. And to be listed as the CFP national champion, a team had to win the CFP playoffs. So there, that is their standard and guideline for deciding these things.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:42 pm to captdalton
What states are we surprised at missing?
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:43 pm to captdalton
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AP National Champions
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:53 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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What states are we surprised at missing?
Considering how much we hear about how good they are? Tennessee and Oregon.
Oregon looks like they have a chance to remedy it this year though.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:56 pm to captdalton
Tennessee has been shite for years. Oregon has been hit or miss but I can see them being a surprise to some
Posted on 11/28/24 at 1:58 pm to captdalton
Now...... keeping it to just men's sports, why don't you add America's game.... baseball.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 8:01 pm to 3down10
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Only LSU's claim is legitimate.
USCw didn't even play for the title.
The BCS was the format all teams agreed upon. The 50 years of USCw and other teams getting voted in by a biased media were over.
Chicken claims that agreed upon formats aren't valid; only his determination of who is worthy is.
Word is the NCAA is **THIS** close to adopting his methodology. Something about needing to kill enough braincells first.
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