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re: Anyone else think Richt is overrated as qb guru?

Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by DawgGONIT
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:09 pm to
Eason also is going to be proof of the system. He is considered to have NFL talent arm, maybe better than Staffords. He already has good mechanics, a very quick release and footwork. Eason is considered to be the starter once he comes on campus. Eason is compared to Stafford in talent, but probably with better mechanics and work ethic. Stafford was the #1 pick. Eason can go to any top 25 program and still will be drafted in top 10 if things go the way they currently are for him, meaning he continues to get better and not regress. BUT Richt w/ get most of the credit for developing him into a great qb, but he is already a great qb.

I'm not saying Richt can't coach qbs, but I just see him getting top end qb talent and they produce for him, but the bottom talent he cannot coach them up. I think he is above avg qb coach but no guru. A guru doesn't squib kick it.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:11 pm to

ricth is a qb-guru?

since when?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:11 pm to
I'd like to hear some names of coaches that could have done more with Cox and Mason (Tereshinski barely played relative to the others on that list) as 1 year starters.
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:13 pm to
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guru


What even is a QB guru?
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:14 pm to
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I've always considered him to be one of the better developers of QBs in the SEC. Even the guys who aren't blue chip guys like Mason will be solid for him.
I agree w/ this for the most part. J Cox wasn't that good for us. Joe T was pretty bad. Mason played the best out of these lower guys, but still only avg like 167yds a game. High completion % is skewed b/c most of his passes were short yardage (which is high % passes by default).


Thanks for reply.
Posted by Dirty Whistle
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:15 pm to


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Posted by PrisonMike
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:15 pm to
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Anyone else think Richt is overrated as qb guru?


Yes. But he was pretty good in "As Good As It Gets".


Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:16 pm to
Richt does extremely well with QBs and always has. Georgia has had it's best and most consistent QB play in it's history with CMR as head man, and the record books indicate he's better than most coaches at it.

Whether he's a 'guru' or not I don't give a frick.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:19 pm to
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Best quarterback to come from the state of Georgia during the lifetime of most posters on this board and Saint Richt recruits him as a tight end


Thats another thing about Richt fans. He is a qb guru, but he can't take these spread guys and convert them as a pocket passer. A qb for us that can also run the ball would be a NIGHTMARE for anyone especially when we had Gurley, Chubb and Michel. If Richt would recruit some guys that can also run, we would be so much more dynamic on offense. Even H Mason had some success running it, just imagine a guy who can run 4.5-4.6.

And Cam would be a beast at UGA.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
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ETA: I think Bobo is a very good/great QB coach too, but Bobo didn't produce prolific offenses with stud QBs like Danny Kanell and Thad Busby. Richt has turned some shite QBs into productive college players.
I think Bobo is better than Richt, but like I've said Richt is above avg qb coach, so he's pretty good. I just don't seem him being a guru like some UGA fans believe. Thats why I'm asking here to get more unbiased answers.
Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Yeah that dude is trolling pretty hard. He can't even say yes or no to the question. So does the head coach take credit or the qb coach? B/c while Richt was at FSU he gets the credit as the qb coach, but at UGA he gets the credit as the Head Coach and not M Bobo the qb coach. Sounds legit


Isn't that pretty subjective though? Richt was never a legit college QB or QB coack. Richt never won the Heisman or coached a Heisman QB though.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:25 pm to
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ricth is a qb-guru?

since when?


Most non UGA fans are pretty saying this. Maybe 2-3 admit that he is pretty good, but not necessarily a 'guru'.

However, all the UGA dinseys are calling me a troll for just questioning Richt's ability.
Posted by gatorhata9
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:25 pm to
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and those guys do good


Do "well" you simpleton count
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 9:26 pm
Posted by gatorhata9
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:32 pm to
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He is a qb guru, but he can't take these spread guys and convert them as a pocket passer.


Wouldn't taking a square peg and trying to shove it in to a round hole when you have round pegs available to the square route of stupid?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:32 pm to
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I think Bobo is better than Richt


We've never seen Bobo without Richt, so there's no way of knowing. We'll see on that.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:34 pm to
Joe Cox did alright, had 2 big games against Arkansas and Kentucky. I'm sure if he were at Hawaii or Texas Tech he could put up better numbers. I also remember that season where Cox lost us a few games. But he also had AJ Green to throw to, so I would just throw it up to him too.

H Mason's play calling was so tame for most of the season. I'm sure he had arm problems or at least it seemed it. He hardly ever threw it deep, only late in the season did he try it more. But for the most part he was throwing screens and 5-7 yard slants. He made stupid decisions for a 5th yr SR. Intentional ground much? Did you not watch any of the games?

Also what games did H Mason win for us?
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 9:36 pm
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:37 pm to
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Richt does extremely well with QBs and always has. Georgia has had it's best and most consistent QB play in it's history with CMR as head man, and the record books indicate he's better than most coaches at it.

Whether he's a 'guru' or not I don't give a frick.
That reply I can agree with
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:39 pm to
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Richt never won the Heisman or coached a Heisman QB though.

What?
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:42 pm to
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Wouldn't taking a square peg and trying to shove it in to a round hole when you have round pegs available to the square route of stupid?
So why did H Mason run the ball? 4tds last year for a qb who isn't athletic. Why did A Murray run when he was here? I remember Stafford tearing up UF w/ a run up the gut, but no I'm stupid for thinking that we run some w/ the qb.

And yes if you take a spread qb like Mariota and convert him to be like A Murray we would be unstoppable. We still do the qb option, although we usually always hand it off. Instead of throwing the ball out of bounds the qb can have the option to run or throw it out of bounds. But if we recruit only guys who are statues in the pocket, then are less dynamic. But remember Richt can develop these guys into great passers, so I don't see why we don't recruit fast, athletic qbs.

PrisonMike....that pic is hilarious I don't think she woke up and was like, "I think I'm going to look like Mark Richt today."
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:49 pm to
LSU fan says yes; he is the god damn QB whisperer.
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