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re: Anybody wanna have a REAL conversation about the Ala passing game vs. the LSU secondary?

Posted on 10/25/18 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
28769 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 3:00 pm to
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'm sorry, but I don't see anyway BAMA is held to only 24 points.


First to 21 wins.

Final score 21-19
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18608 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 3:25 pm to
It will be a long night for the secondary if LSU cannot generate pressure up front.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 5:33 pm to
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First team to get to 24 wins.


I'm sorry, but I don't see anyway BAMA is held to only 24 points.
If LSU's offense can't find a way to control the ball(at least 35 minutes, probably 40), there's no way Alabama's offense will be held to less than 5 TDs.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
887 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 6:01 pm to
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bstew3006

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What defense can LSU run that you don't think bama will eat alive?


This will be a little long but there is no short easy answer.
1 - Play your CB's in bump and run with inside out leverage. This will block slant routes form the outside WR's and disrupt timing. It does open up over the top routes but the LSU CB's are good enough to take that chance.
2 - slant your 3 inside DL players toward the TE with an occasional slant the other way to prevent predictability. This will take advantage of the biggest weakness of the Alabama OL (guards) and make it more difficult for OL to get to the second level (LB's). Doing this disrupts the Alabama inside RPO and inside zone read.
3 - Back the LB's off an extra yard from normal line-up and play softer than normal. This will make it harder for a short QB (Tua) to hit quick TE throws over the middle in RPO
4 - when you slant the line bring a 1 man blitz but change which man and from where continuously so the QB and RB's have to think more when it comes to picking up the blitz. This will also upset timing for the RPO's.
5 - OLB must keep contain on the edges and slow off tackle runs (outside zone) or the 3 headed RB's will have big games.

Where this causes issues for the D is TE routes to the outside and RB quick flare routes. The corners will have their backs turn and be late in support. That will leave three big issues for the D. 1) slot vs safety of star - can your safeties/star cover Judy or Waddle? 2) QB escape to the edge nad/or hit the slot/TE on the run in a scramble. And the 3rd - RB slipping out late with LB late to chase him down.

Playing this style will slow the game down and reduce the number of possessions for Tua but it will also make the D tire for late in the game. Alabama will likely rack up lots of yards but have to be extremely good in the red zone - not our best area of play on O so far this year. It would also place a premium on turnovers as the game would likely be kept in the high 20's to low 30's for Alabama.

That is how I would call the game as the DC for LSU.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
887 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 6:07 pm to
BTW - best thread I have read on the rant in weeks. Thanks guys!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 6:09 pm to
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Playing this style will slow the game down and reduce the number of possessions for Tua but it will also make the D tire for late in the game. Alabama will likely rack up lots of yards but have to be extremely good in the red zone - not our best area of play on O so far this year. It would also place a premium on turnovers as the game would likely be kept in the high 20's to low 30's for Alabama.

That may be the only chance for LSU....pretty good plan!
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7153 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 6:24 pm to
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The question is really which defense will score the most. Both QBs have protected the ball well, but I really expect both to have INTs this game. Which one will have the most??



I dont see Burrow taking chances, not that Bama has an elite secondary, but he's been pretty good taking care of the ball. He'll take off running before he makes a risky pass.

I can see Tua having 1. He got away with 1 vs Tenn.

I expect Bama to come out run heavy with no Devin White in the game. Force a safety in the box then attack with the WR's
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Pmtiger
Member since Dec 2014
837 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 6:57 pm to
Have you been in our defensive teams room this week ? ??
Posted by jvilardo
5024 e. Brooks Town BR, La.
Member since Jan 2012
3686 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 6:59 pm to
let's not forget about the three headed monster run game. As well.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:05 pm to
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need his Alabama spirit to show up in TUA


Yeah but how many 95 mph passes?????

Was that the 1997 game? Boy that was awful. I vividly remember that one for some reason. Somehow it stayed close for a while because LSU kept fumbling or something and we'd be backed up in our own end. I remember because our seats were down low (I was around 11 or 12) and it felt like the whole half was played 20 feet from us.

Kevin Faulk went nuts.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
887 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:08 pm to
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2 - slant your 3 inside DL players toward the TE with an occasional slant the other way to prevent predictability. This will take advantage of the biggest weakness of the Alabama OL (guards) and make it more difficult for OL to get to the second level (LB's). Doing this disrupts the Alabama inside RPO and inside zone read.


I left out 1 other thing. If the guard pulls, the DL slanting should follow him to the ball.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
887 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:10 pm to
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Have you been in our defensive teams room this week ? ??



I wish...but I also hope they do not use this plan (or something close)
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:17 pm to
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BTW this is a solid thread is what has been a shite show this week.


Thanks all for what I come here to see. We can be civil and still be great fans who support our teams.

Here's to a great game and no injuries for either team.
Posted by Pmtiger
Member since Dec 2014
837 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:21 pm to
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wish...but I also hope they do not use this plan (or something close)


It’s a nice plan. Good luck. I hope it’s a great game.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:39 pm to
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It really hinges on how much pressure the front 7 can get on Tua,


This is our Achilles heel though...we dont pressure the QBs well without blitzing.
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