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re: An In-Depth Look at the QBs in the SEC

Posted on 7/8/13 at 6:28 pm to
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/8/13 at 6:28 pm to
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Still triple what JJ threw in 2010 (minus the bowl game)

For real? Damn I didnt know that.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 6:34 pm to
Nevermind I'm a dumbass
This post was edited on 7/8/13 at 6:36 pm
Posted by cmars14
Member since Oct 2011
6 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 7:51 pm to
The original 1-7 for the East and West aren't rankings. They're just listings. Despite the fact I'm an LSU fan, Mett is NOT the #2 QB in the SEC or in SEC West. I gave you factual rankings in other categories and leave it up to you and everyone else to decide the 1-14 rankings as complete QBs
Posted by cmars14
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/8/13 at 8:06 pm to
I'm assuming you're talking about Nick Marshall. I hadn't heard much hype about him but after looking up his credentials, I have a feeling he would be an upgrade over Frazier from an athletic perspective. But despite tossing over 3,100 yards last season and 18 TDs in 11 games, he also had an underwhelming completion percentage of 57.1%, and a horrible 20 INTs. As a true passing QB, I'm not sure he's a much better option, but is probably a better athlete who could potentially run the read-option well.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/8/13 at 8:36 pm to
Shaw ran a 4.53 coming out of HS at a Rivals camp. He's at around a 4.5 now and is the fastest QB in the conference.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/8/13 at 9:17 pm to
If mett was middle of the pack sec last year, I think with more experience, cam running the offense, a better line and more experienced receivers, he will crush his stats from last year.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/8/13 at 9:19 pm to
Soooo...JD > Mett?????
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2561 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 9:20 pm to
Johnny Manziel is a god
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
155202 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 9:23 pm to
Your lips are locked around his peen aren't they?
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 9:24 pm to
Still dont know why you chose the QB that was benched over the one the finished the season.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 10:16 pm to
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No QB comes fricking close to AJ McManning in the TD/INT department



Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 10:25 pm to
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James Franklin is better than Driskel.


I'm not a Franklin fan but this is 100% accurate. Franklin may end up as the 2nd best QB in the east if he's healthy. His numbers weren't that far off and I'd bet he barely played 50% of the snaps. I know he tried to come back in the Vandy game and started but couldn't get through the first quarter.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Your Mom’s Sperm Donor
Member since Jan 2013
13899 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Shaw ran a 4.53 coming out of HS at a Rivals camp. He's at around a 4.5 now and is the fastest QB in the conference.






Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18108 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 10:33 pm to
J. Whitlow >>>> Max
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15970 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 11:26 pm to
Shaw started more than half the games in '11 so its technically his 3rd year as a starter. 20 starts with a 17-3 record
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 7/8/13 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

14. Zach Mettenberger (-208)



Good. Lord.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 12:17 am to
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Shaw ran a 4.53 coming out of HS at a Rivals camp. He's at around a 4.5 now and is the fastest QB in the conference.



Yeah, the OP info regarding Shaw is basically mentally challenged....Garcia was a legit 4.7 40 guy, so was Smelley, Beecher, even Blake Mitchell was a legit 4.7 40 guy. ConnOr Shaw is a legit 4.5 40 guy, and he has been since high school. Shaw owns all the USC program's 40-yard dash records for the QB position (don't know how far back they go). The idea that Driskell could out-run Shaw in a 40-yd dash is just laughable.

And Shaw has now been a starter for 2.5 seasons, becoming the regular starter versus UK in the 6th game of 2011, a 13-game season. I don't know about fastest QB in the SEC but he's a legit 4.5-40 QB....

Connor Shaw 64-yd Run vs Michigan

Connor Shaw 80-yd TD Run vs Missouri
This post was edited on 7/9/13 at 12:21 am
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10561 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:06 am to
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SEC Rankings by Estimated Speed 1. Johnny Manziel (4.55) 2. Jeff Driskel (4.60) 3. James Franklin (4.65) 4. Kiehl Frazier (4.65) (Tie) 5. Conner Shaw (4.70) 6. Austyn Carta-Samuels (4.70) (Tie) 7. Brandon Allen (4.75) 8. Bo Wallace (4.80) 9. Aaron Murray (4.85) 10. AJ McCarron (4.85) 11. Maxwell Smith (4.85) 12. Justin Worley (4.85) (Tie) 13. Zach Mettenberger (4.90) 14. Tyler Russell (4.95)


Mett should win the slowest QB award by a landslide
Posted by cmars14
Member since Oct 2011
6 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:51 am to
Thanks for the info on Shaw. I should have put 2nd year full time starter and at least 3rd year contributor but I couldn't find how late in the season Shaw came in for Garcia, so I stuck with 2nd year full-time starter
Posted by cmars14
Member since Oct 2011
6 posts
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:55 am to
The 4.70 is a typo I missed and just went with while putting up the miscellaneous rankings. Thanks for pointing it out.

I know he ran that 4.53 coming out of high school, but since then has put on 10 lbs and presumably will continue to add weight (mainly in muscle) if he has any intention of being drafted to play QB at the next level.

I think he'll continue to put on weight and run in the low 4.6s, if not a 4.60 at the end of the season if he gets an invite to the combine or at his Pro day.
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