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re: Alabama's Retin Obasohan speaks out on Belgium's attacks

Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:14 am to
Posted by GnashRebel
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:14 am to
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when the 4th Crusade decided to sack Constantinople because fighting those pesky Muslims was hard work.


And this was largely at the instigation of the Venetians for economic, not religious, reasons.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:18 am to
Yeah remember when Hitler and Stalin killed all those people in the name of God? Oh wait they were atheists but some athiests only want to talk about Salem or the Inquisition because it fits their limited narrative.
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:09 am to
Good lord this is the most uninformed thread I've ever read on here. And that is saying a lot.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:08 pm to
inform us, oh enlightened one
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:15 pm to
I'm sure he has no idea. He has just been told that he needs to be a 'PC bro' and never mention islam when it comes to these types of terrorist acts.
Posted by CrazyCadillac
Member since Oct 2011
1919 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:26 pm to
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what the crimson tide fan said...the fundamental difference between the 2 religions is in the books they follow. one book says to kill the unbeliever, its a sin if you don't...the other book says its a sin if you don't love your enemy. pretty cut and dry, wouldn't you agree?


I don't think you've read the bible.

Oh Christians lol
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 7:50 pm to
Hitler was raised as a Catholic and referred to killing Jews in Mein Kampf as the lords work.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
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Posted on 3/24/16 at 7:19 am to
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Hitler was raised as a Catholic and referred to killing Jews in Mein Kampf as the lords work.





Even if you consider Hitler a Christian, which is a stretch, his body count pales in comparison to Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.


Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4786 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 8:33 am to
How is that relative to todays Christianity?
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5171 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:15 am to
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I hope the others here do the same.


Done =)
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 9:15 am
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5171 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:20 am to
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Hitler was raised as a Catholic and referred to killing Jews in Mein Kampf as the lords work.


Lots of people in history have professed to "doing God's work," while doing horrible things. Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is one.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:22 am to
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Lol as if there's any comparison between Islam and other religions as far as intolerance, hatred, violence and pure evil goes


I'm not some Muslim apologist by any means, but lumping in all Muslims with Isis is like lumping in all baptists with westboro. Just like Christianity there are dozens of different sects and denominations of Islam. Sunni Wahabism being the predominant Isis belief, is Stone Age Islam. They have a steadfast belief in their book as it is written. There is no adapting the texts to change with the times or metaphorical interpretations. They believe in the book as it is written. These are the radicals of the radicals. There are Muslims in every one of your communities that haven't hurt a fly though, just like there are baptists that don't protest funerals
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 9:26 am
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:29 am to
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I'm not some Muslim apologist by any means, but lumping in all Muslims with Isis is like lumping in all baptists with westboro. Just like Christianity there are dozens of different sects and denominations of Islam. Sunni Wahabism being the predominant Isis belief, is Stone Age Islam. These are the radicals of the radicals. There are Muslims in every one of your communities that haven't hurt a fly.


I want to tell you why your posit is, well, absurd: Those sects that may be more 'peace-loving' than others, are that way despite Mohammad - not because of him. His writing-style evolved over time - from more docile and peace sharing to cut off the heads of your enemies. Besides, people wouldn't be as apt to lump all muslims together IF they policed their own.

Every protest Westboro makes (non violent I might add) is ALWAYS met with condemnation from other Christian groups. Always
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:35 am to
Nobody is saying that all muslims are terrorists. But it's absurd to compare radical islamic beliefs to Westboro baptist church. It is estimated that 600-800 million muslims are proponents for Sharia law. Which states things like women can be beheaded for a variety of reasons. Westboro is a couple hundred members.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38377 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:36 am to
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I want to tell you why your posit is, well, absurd: Those sects that may be more 'peace-loving' than others, are that way despite Mohammad - not because of him.


Is that not basically what I said? That Wahabism is by book Islam (read, violent and murderous) and not every Muslim sect deciphers the quaran that way?
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:40 am to
You stopped short of the 'policing-their-own' remark. The reason they are judged the way they are is because, until recently, these "peace-loving" mohommadists haven't had enough balls to condemn their brothers violence. To compare the relationship between these two and baptists/Westboro is absurd.

See the difference?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38377 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:43 am to
What? Muslims have been at war with Muslims for literally centuries

Do you realize who is on the front lines fighting Isis on the ground? Muslims.
This post was edited on 3/24/16 at 9:44 am
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:47 am to
Do you also realize that the world is filled with Mohammadists who don't live in the middle east? Do you realize that in this country, where so much aid has been offered (both in blood and money)to fight radical Mohammadism - moderate Islamists are virtually MUTE on the subject?
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:49 am to
And by the way - many of these great defenders of moderate Islam that you are referencing... are the first ones to throw up their hands when met with resistance.

You keep trying to make your remarks about something else. You compared it to Baptists and Westboro. And I called that argument 'absurd.' Tell me where I am wrong
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38377 posts
Posted on 3/24/16 at 9:54 am to
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moderate Islamists are virtually MUTE on the subject?



Are they though? You know lots of moderate Muslims or is this just a shot in the dark based on nothing?
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