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re: Alabama’s 2016 starting Defense in the NFL Draft

Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:29 am to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:29 am to
I think the key term you’re missing there is “all stars”. There weren’t a regular college team. They were a team made up by some of the best CFB players around the country at every position.

Also the gap between NFL and college has grown substantially since then. NFL players have far far better training and conditioning. There’s a reason why almost rookies have struggles their first years in the league.
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:30 am to
That was in the leather helmet days. I believe we can all agree the size and speed of the game has changed significantly since the 50s and 60s.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:30 am to
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Not saying Bama would win, but that team wasn’t getting blown out by any damn body.



Yeah they would. That offense would get shut out.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:31 am to
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That was in the leather helmet days. I believe we can all agree the size and speed of the game has changed significantly since the 50s and 60s.



He was using links of games from the 50's?
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10896 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:31 am to
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Never played a down together.


Really? From a Miami fan? You can't be this fricking stupid. Taylor played the nickel as a true freshman when Reed was a senior.
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:33 am to
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That was in the leather helmet days. I believe we can all agree the size and speed of the game has changed significantly since the 50s and 60s.


The last game was played in 1976...
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:38 am to
The last game that a college all star team won was in 1963. The NFL teams won out after that game up until they quit playing, according to Wiki. Football’s changed a lot since 63.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:39 am to
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Just the Clemson Offense. How many points did they score? How many Current NFL starters in the Offense?




waiting for an answer.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:39 am to
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And then post their defensive stats against that 2016 or even 2011 Bama/LSU squads.

That 2011 Bama team is overrated. Never played a single really good offense. Outside of Arkansas, every team they played was awful on offense so of course they stomped them.

And comparing offensive numbers is not fair either. Offenses have changed rapidly since then. In 2001 there were only 12 teams in the country that averaged more then 450 yards per game. While in 2011 there were 22. In 2016 there were 36.

But that Miami is overrated because they were considered the GOAT till after a bunch of their players got drafted.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:40 am to
I’m sure those pros were really playing their hardest to. What a dumb fricking example
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:44 am to
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How good is that guy?


A better question was how bad was Bama'a offense in that game.
Posted by boot
Member since Oct 2014
3300 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:58 am to
Yeah, Big Jim was ready to get back to the steel mill after that game to make some real money.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:02 am to
Auburn fans have been super ornery lately
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:03 am to
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And didn’t win the title.



quote:

NFLU


And still miserable as frick.

Posted by ColoBama
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:04 am to
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A better question was how bad was Bama'a offense in that game.



Still good enough to score 31 against a very good Clemson defense?
Posted by Groovie
San Diego,California
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:04 am to
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Really? From a Miami fan? You can't be this fricking stupid.

Take a chill pill slick.

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Taylor played the nickel as a true freshman when Reed was a senior.

He didn't but go on thinkin that. And this was 2001. Teams were in base 90% of the time back then.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:07 am to
They still went 0 of 12 on 3rd downs at a point during the game. In the 2 drives inside Clemson territory after the defense forced TOs, they had negative yards on one drive and punted on the other. They deserve far more blame for that loss the the defense.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10896 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:35 am to
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He didn't but go on thinkin that. And this was 2001.


As a freshman (he was one of just four true freshmen to play for the team), Taylor carved a niche for himself in Miami's secondary in nickel and dime defensive schemes.

Sean Taylor

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And this was 2001. Teams were in base 90% of the time back then.



Yeah,.....because that Miami team was so bad opponnents were always running the ball against them to kill the clock.

UM 33, Penn State 7
UM 61, Rutgers 0
UM 43, Pitt 21
UM 38, Troy Ste 7
UM 49, FSU 27
UM 45, West Virginia 3
UM 38, Temple 0
UM 18, Boston College 7
UM 59, Syracuse 0
UM 65, Washington 7
UM 26, Virginia Tech 24
UM 37, Nebraska 14

I take it back. You are that stupid.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13095 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:42 am to
You're close to another NC Shug....about 150 miles
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21872 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:43 am to
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And then Deshaun Watson happened. How good is that guy? Dear lord.
Very good.
But, the D did enough to win the game. It was the offense that failed them and kept putting them back out on the field. One more first down in the second half likely beats Clemson.

But, spilt milk and all... they managed to overcome it.
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