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re: Alabama to offer Greg Marshall $3 large per year...

Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by AU4real35
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:26 pm to
Bama could hire Phil Jackson and they would still suck... I know everyone loves to overlook it, but Bama's bball program doesn't do well while the football team is..
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:27 pm to
So that means it will never ever ever happen? It's impossible?
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:28 pm to
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bama will never be upper echelon in bball just like Auburn won't.


Could happen...hell UAB was pretty damn good with Anderson at the helm. Several other comparable SEC schools have had great success historically.

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There will never be enough talent in Alabama to build an elite program.


Lol ask Coach Cal about Cousins and Bledsoe just recently, the bball talent in the state of Alabama is SEVERELY underrated, if one coach could come into a program in state and just totally dominate the whole state recruiting wise, then coach 'em up the way GM does it would rival UK for best team in the SEC every yr

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The upper echelon talent it takes to build a program will go to Duke, Syracuse, UK, Zona.........hell, even UF.....before they would chose to come to Auburn or bama. Each school may have a great year here or there, but neither of us will ever be able to sustain upper echelon status in bball.


The point of all this talk is being missed on why Bama has a shot now at Marshall.

The SEC Network and the amount Bama will likely offer changes all that. Miss St just hired Howland...slowly you are gonna see as each SEC school loses a coach a lot better one replace him because of the new opportunity being presented to be a national product at an SEC school with the SEC Network. This will be a landmark hire for the league if it happens whether he wins and it works or not because of the foundation he is able to provide the league not just one school. He makes 1.whatever mil playing in a fairly small arena in Wichita Ks and never hardly ever gets TV airtime especially for league games. Just think of the difference, I have a sneaking suspicion if Bama offers 4 mil a yr he's in Tuscaloosa fairly quickly.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:30 pm to
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underrated, if one coach could come into a program in state and just totally dominate the whole state recruiting wise, then coach 'em up the way GM does it would rival UK for best team in the SEC every yr


Alabama doesn't have anywhere close to enough top level talent for that.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:30 pm to
I'm pretty sure both football and basketball were pretty good in the 70s and 80s.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:30 pm to
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So that means it will never ever ever happen? It's impossible?


Yes. Apparently your reading comprehension sucks. Do you honestly think bama or Auburn can recruit the top talent in the nation? Do you honestly think said top talent will chose bama over Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Zona, Mich. St., etc., etc., etc.? These are the schools that get the elite talent. Auburn and bama can become relevant.....expecting more is delusional.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:32 pm to
Recruiting Bham and Atl would make Bama plenty good enough for that

BTW long time no see what's up bro
Posted by Patton
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:35 pm to
I'm sorry you feel that way. I absolutely believe Alabama can produce an elite bball program. What I think is delusional is your assertion that no matter what, it will never happen.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:37 pm to
And early to mid 90s. Corky is about 100% on being completely wrong in his crusade today. Almost have to marvel at it.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:37 pm to
Ok Tigers...........so tell me this

can you or anyone else on here (without google) tell me who the coach was at Duke before Coach K?

How about the coach at FSU before Bowden?

Winning brings notoriety and add the TV aspect to that and there's no telling what heights a great bball mind like GM could make Bama into
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:38 pm to
Even if bama did have great in state talent it would get raped but your upper echelon teams... Bama fans in this thread are delusional because they relate their basketball team to their football team... They believe if they get a top notch coach that all will be well and they'll be competing for championships... It just isn't the case. They don't have the history to back it up, they have nothing to sell to the big name recruits...
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:43 pm to
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Ok Tigers...........so tell me this

can you or anyone else on here (without google) tell me who the coach was at Duke before Coach K?

How about the coach at FSU before Bowden?

Winning brings notoriety and add the TV aspect to that and there's no telling what heights a great bball mind like GM could make Bama into


What did Wimp Sanderson do for bama bball? He built a pretty solid program. Pretty solid, not elite. Sonny built Auburn's program up, but we were never considered elite. We couldn't sustain it. The State just does not produce enough top talent. It just doesn't. When you talk about Coach K...........North Carolina produces tons of bball players. When you talk about FSU, you are talking about a school in the most fertile State in the nation for football players. There is a HUGE difference in the talent those schools can get from their State for each school's respective sport.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:45 pm to
Wimp sustained a very solid program. He carried over what Newton built. We hoped that Hobbs would continue it, but it wasn't so.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:45 pm to
We are not worthy. You are so kind to grace us with your benevolent wisdom. Any more information you can give us, please don't heistate.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:45 pm to
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Wimp sustained a very solid program.



but at any point was it considered elite?
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:49 pm to
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And early to mid 90s. Corky is about 100% on being completely wrong in his crusade today. Almost have to marvel at it.


Tell me 1 season that bama has won an SEC championship in football( not even a national championship) and made it to the sweet sixteen in basketball...

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Every time bama does well in bball the football team is struggling...


This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 10:50 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:52 pm to
Elite? Probably not, but we went toe-to-toe with two of the best teams of that era (Loyola and Indiana) in the tournament and just fell short. Lost 62-60 to LM when they were averaging 122 ppg, and lost by 5 to the undefeated Indiana team. Knight called us the best team any of his teams have played. It was unfortunate that we had to meet in the sweet 16.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29797 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:56 pm to
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Elite? Probably not,


That's my point. Neither Auburn or bama will ever get enough talent to be elite. Each school can have years with very very good teams, but we both are fighting against established/elite schools for talent.....and we will lose those battles almost every single time. Each school can build to "relevant" status, but unless either of us opens up the wallet, in the wrong kind of way, we will never be considered "elite".
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:58 pm to
Bama won the SEC in both football and basketball in 74 and 75.

Basketball won the SEC in 2002, and football won the west, but couldn't go to ATL because we were on probation.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:58 pm to
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Every time bama does well in bball the football team is struggling...

You really shouldn't speak in absolutes about things you know absolutely nothing about.

1992 Bama won national title. The bball team went 26-9 with players like Spreewell, Horry, and Robinson (all NBA 1st rounders).

There are other examples but it only takes one to disprove an "every time" argument.
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