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re: Alabama to offer Greg Marshall $3 large per year...
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:25 pm to reedus23
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:25 pm to reedus23
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How far do y'all think you will go to land Marshall?
I'd bet it would take $5 plus. Would y'all pay that much for a basketball coach?
We profit $8 million per year so the money is there. I agree about the $5 million number and I think that its reasonable given the salaries coaches at other universities are being paid.
UF is $4m
UK is $5.5m
KU is $5m
Duke is almost $10m
Marshall will get $5m anywhere else he goes so I don't see why we wouldn't pay him his money.
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:25 pm to AU4real35
Auburn: where coaching careers go to die.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:25 pm to Patton
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Why not?
You tell me... Look at the correlation between your football team and basketball team... At least 80% of the time in bama's history the basketball team has been to the Sweet 16 or deeper while the football team was mediocre..
ETA: Im pretty sure there's never a time where bama has won the SEC championship in football and been to the Sweet 16 in bball.. I may be wrong... So what's the problem?
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:32 pm to Robin Masters
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We profit $8 million per year so the money is there. I agree about the $5 million number and I think that its reasonable given the salaries coaches at other universities are being paid.
UF is $4m
UK is $5.5m
KU is $5m
Duke is almost $10m
Marshall will get $5m anywhere else he goes so I don't see why we wouldn't pay him his money.
Marshall is not worth 5 million and I hope we would not pay that for him. For that type of cash I would want someone who has proven he can win at a major program, and most importantly someone who has proven he can recruit at an elite level. I know we don't want to admit it, but Marshall could be another Grant. You don't know until they play great teams week after week.
Marshall has never landed a single 4 or 5 star player. You have to be able to recruit toe to toe with Donovan, Pitino, K, Self, etc in order to consistently win big at a power conference school.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:38 pm to Monticello
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Marshall is not worth 5 million and I hope we would not pay that for him. For that type of cash I would want someone who has proven he can win at a major program, and most importantly someone who has proven he can recruit at an elite level. I know we don't want to admit it, but Marshall could be another Grant. You don't know until they play great teams week after week.
Marshall has never landed a single 4 or 5 star player. You have to be able to recruit toe to toe with Donovan, Pitino, K, Self, etc in order to consistently win big at a power conference school.
Then don't hire him. If you aren't convinced he can do it then don't even interview him. Why bother. If you want to hire him then pay the going rate. Your line of thinking makes no sense.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:41 pm to Monticello
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Marshall is not worth 5 million
I don't think he is either. I mean the guy is a hell of a coach but Alabama should walk away if Marshall wants anything more than $4.5 million. Its not like he's the only good coach out there.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:43 pm to FairhopeTider
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I don't think he is either. I mean the guy is a hell of a coach but Alabama should walk away if Marshall wants anything more than $4.5 million. Its not like he's the only good coach out there.
Just include bonuses to get him up to 5: NCAA tournament appearances, sweet 16's, elite eight, etc.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:45 pm to Robin Masters
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Then don't hire him. If you aren't convinced he can do it then don't even interview him. Why bother. If you want to hire him then pay the going rate. Your line of thinking makes no sense.
He's absolutely a great coach, but we don't know if he can win at a power conference level or recruit 4 and 5 star players. 5 million is the kind of money you pay a sure thing....a Calipari, Pitino, Self, etc. because you know it will work out. If you pay 5 mil to a coach that fails, you can't afford to fire him. Pay Marshall whatever it takes to get him, short of it being so much that the program is kidnapped if he fails. You can't give someone Saban style money with the buyout Marshall would demand unless you know he will succeed.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:46 pm to Monticello
Then your only option is to hire a mediocre coach and pay $1.5 million because the only ones that have proven they can recruit at an elite level are Cal, Self, K and you're not getting them. We have a D2 coach if you want him.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:47 pm to FairhopeTider
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I don't think he is either. I mean the guy is a hell of a coach but Alabama should walk away if Marshall wants anything more than $4.5 million. Its not like he's the only good coach out there.
So if GM would agree to come to Bama but wanted the same amount as Bill Self at KU, whom he just embarrassed in the NCAA Tourney, you tell him to take a hike? I hope Bill Battle is not of a similar mindset.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:48 pm to RTR America
It doesn't matter who bama brings in... They should've stayed with Grant until the saban era is over... History has shown bama will not be a contender in football and bball in the same year...
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:48 pm to RTR America
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Just include bonuses to get him up to 5: NCAA tournament appearances, sweet 16's, elite eight, etc.
This I am fine with. Base of 3 mil with bonuses up to 5 dependent on performance. You can't give a guy who has never recruited a single 4 or 5 star player 5 mil guaranteed.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:49 pm to Monticello
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This I am fine with. Base of 3 mil with bonuses up to 5 dependent on performance. You can't give a guy who has never recruited a single 4 or 5 star player 5 mil guaranteed.
Makes sense.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:52 pm to Monticello
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This I am fine with. Base of 3 mil with bonuses up to 5 dependent on performance. You can't give a guy who has never recruited a single 4 or 5 star player 5 mil guaranteed.
Yeah. The thing with Marshall is that he is his team just picked apart a team full of 4 star and 5 star guys this past weekend. The guy can develop some talent.
Now you provide him a recruiting budget the size of what they are using at UK then who knows what happens.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:53 pm to Monticello
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This I am fine with. Base of 3 mil with bonuses up to 5 dependent on performance. You can't give a guy who has never recruited a single 4 or 5 star player 5 mil guaranteed.
I'm glad it's not my decision but if I had to bet I think GM will get an offer very close to $5m. I understand what you are saying about "unproven" but GM has won pretty consistently over the last few years. Realistically its not likely he would be unable to improve upon that success.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:55 pm to Robin Masters
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So if GM would agree to come to Bama but wanted the same amount as Bill Self at KU, whom he just embarrassed in the NCAA Tourney, you tell him to take a hike? I hope Bill Battle is not of a similar mindset.
Yes. That's what you tell him.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 8:57 pm to Monticello
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Yes. That's what you tell him.
I wouldn't. And neither will any other program that is looking to employee him as their HC.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:01 pm to Robin Masters
FYI Sean Miller at Arizona makes 2.3 million a year. If you want to pay someone 5 million, you offer it to guys like that.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:05 pm to Monticello
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Yes. That's what you tell him.
Let's say Roy Williams retires this year. What do you think UNC would pay Marshall? Indiana?
I'm gonna bet that if they want Marshall, it's not going to be for $3 million.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:06 pm to Monticello
I think some UA fans have an unreasonably hard boner for Marshall. I like him as a coach, but $5M is absurd.
Kansas lost 9 games this year. Using Robin's metric, the 9 coaches that guided their teams to those wins deserve $5m a year too.
Kansas lost 9 games this year. Using Robin's metric, the 9 coaches that guided their teams to those wins deserve $5m a year too.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 9:10 pm
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