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Posted on 5/6/11 at 7:53 am to The Mick
Wow amazing story.
I don't understand the need to chit on other's people's beliefs. Not specially after a tragedy like this.
I don't understand the need to chit on other's people's beliefs. Not specially after a tragedy like this.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:02 am to austingator
quote:You talking to me?
I don't understand the need to chit on other's people's beliefs. Not specially after a tragedy like this.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:03 am to The Mick
dude is lucky to be alive.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:15 am to Baibars
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So an Evil God? ok, I can handle that.
Scripture is clear that nothing "Evil" comes from God. God does not kill people. God does not destroy cities. God does not send tornados to ravage entire towns. New Testament scripture is clear that Jesus served as the ultimate atonement for God's wrath and our sin, and that Satan roams the Earth and is considered "ruler of the atmosphere". Scripture also states that all good things come from God, and that ALL THINGS work together for the good of those who love him... so... even though this tornado (which God did not cause) has ruined the lives of thousands, God will use it (and already has used it) for good.
You don't have to like it, and I know that doesn't fit your agenda, but that's the way it is.
Do your research before making ridiculous statements about a faith you know nothing about.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:23 am to superman
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Scripture is clear that nothing "Evil" comes from God. God does not kill people. God does not destroy cities. God does not send tornados to ravage entire towns
Uh, you need to read the Bible again...God does plenty of killing, city and world destroying.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:25 am to Cruiserhog
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Uh, you need to read the Bible again...God does plenty of killing, city and world destroying.
Yep, and you need to read the New Testament, that states Jesus' blood has atoned for God's wrath (I.E. killy, city and world destroying). You would also subsequently notice the glaring lack of killing, city and world destroying by God in said scriptures.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:35 am to Baibars
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Yes, thank you God, for killing hundreds. I so appreciate your all knowing and all powerful kindness.
It's really a shame that you would try to ruin the good spirit from this story...
You have your own opinions, I respect that as I am sure others do as well. However, in a situation like this - it's better to keep your thoughts to yourself. Show some class...
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:36 am to bamafaithful
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It's really a shame that you would try to ruin the good spirit from this story...
You have your own opinions, I respect that as I am sure others do as well. However, in a situation like this - it's better to keep your thoughts to yourself. Show some class...
That's really all that should have been said. I shouldn't have taken the time to give a response and hijack the thread.
Truly an incredible story.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:39 am to superman
Great story. Thanks for sharing. 
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:45 am to superman
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Truly an incredible story.
Definitely is!
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:49 am to bamasgot13
Amazing.Thanks for posting.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 8:57 am to bamasgot13
Wow man. That's unreal. Thanks for posting that.
Thanks for posting that. Posted on 5/6/11 at 9:09 am to Cruiserhog
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Uh, you need to read the Bible again...God does plenty of killing, city and world destroying.
Not to get into a huge theological argument, but you're correct. I think a lot of well meaning Christians simply misunderstand and equate bad things happening to "good people" as somehow a fault or failure of God. Because those of us who are Christian believe that God is infallible and perfect and is incapable of sin or any fault, some of us therefore reconcile this by blaming the "bad" things that happen on Satan. The Bible is crystal clear and full of examples of God destroying cities and people. This doesn't make Him unrighteous though. He made the universe and everything in it and man rebelled against Him after clearly stating that they would surely die if they did so. We as humans don't like (and I include myself in the don't like category) that but it is what it is and I can't deny what I've clearly read before in the Bible.
I find the grace shown by God in this storm and this particular story to be as remarkable as anything else. It amazes me that the Tuscaloosa portion of the storm didn't kill 100 or more people. That's not even taking into account the other cities that were hit directly. You had thousands of people DIRECTLY in the damage path of these tornadoes and the overwhelming majority of people survived.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 9:28 am to Govt Tide
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Not to get into a huge theological argument, but you're correct. I think a lot of well meaning Christians simply misunderstand and equate bad things happening to "good people" as somehow a fault or failure of God. Because those of us who are Christian believe that God is infallible and perfect and is incapable of sin or any fault, some of us therefore reconcile this by blaming the "bad" things that happen on Satan. The Bible is crystal clear and full of examples of God destroying cities and people. This doesn't make Him unrighteous though. He made the universe and everything in it and man rebelled against Him after clearly stating that they would surely die if they did so. We as humans don't like (and I include myself in the don't like category) that but it is what it is and I can't deny what I've clearly read before in the Bible.
You are mixing Old Testament theology and the way God dealt with sin and sinful people - with New Testament theology which is clearly a stark contrast.
You will not find an instance - after Jesus was killed - that God used his "wrath" to destroy cities, people, or places - until you get to the book of Revelation.
Scripture is crystal clear that Jesus has essentially saved us from God's wrath by dying on the cross.
"Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation." (Romans 5:9-11)
We have been reconciled to God through Christ, which is why God no longer destroys cities or people for sinful activity.
The entire Bible is not full of examples of God's destruction - the Old Testament is, but it's absolutely absent in the New Testament - following Jesus' death.
This post was edited on 5/6/11 at 9:31 am
Posted on 5/6/11 at 9:59 am to superman
Amazing Story, Thanks to the OP for posting.
Oh, and Frick Piggly Wiggly, why would'nt they let in a bleeding man in the midst of disaster?
Oh, and Frick Piggly Wiggly, why would'nt they let in a bleeding man in the midst of disaster?
Posted on 5/6/11 at 10:03 am to superman
I respect your comments and please don't think I'm trying to argue with you, but I'm personally uncomfortable with separating the Old and New Testament like that. What I mean is that the Old Testament is extremely relevant to the New Testament as it uses people and cities as illustrations of the coming Messiah (Jesus) both His first and second coming. It seems a lot of churches totally disregard the Ole Testament as useless or less important than the New Testament. That's the only point I'm making.
I do agree with you though. There aren't the same specific judgments in the New Testament against places that are in the Old Testament. I was speaking more from the standpoint of the fact that while Jesus did in fact atone for the sins of His people, the earth itself is still sin cursed and therefore terrible things like deadly tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, volcanoes still occur like they have since Old Testament days. In other words, "bad" things still happen.
I do agree with you though. There aren't the same specific judgments in the New Testament against places that are in the Old Testament. I was speaking more from the standpoint of the fact that while Jesus did in fact atone for the sins of His people, the earth itself is still sin cursed and therefore terrible things like deadly tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, volcanoes still occur like they have since Old Testament days. In other words, "bad" things still happen.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 10:06 am to 985TigerSaint
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Oh, and Frick Piggly Wiggly, why would'nt they let in a bleeding man in the midst of disaster?
No shite. frick them bitches.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 10:07 am to bamasgot13
That is an amazing story. It's simply a miracle he survived.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 10:41 am to Baibars
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The internet is exactly the place for archaic view points to be attacked.
The political talk board is the place for this. Not a week after over 300 were killed in tornadoes. This could have been a really friendly and uplifting discussion for a lot of people and you have to come hijack it with your shock value.
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