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Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:16 pm to King Crimson
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With your QB, there's no need to cover your receivers
You mean that QB who passed all over your defense?
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:17 pm to HerbEaverstinks
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I'm not going to say what the penalty should be, I don't know the circumstances surrounding the alleged incident of DUI are at Alabama, but I do think something should be done and I'm sure Saban will do something about it. Even if he doesn't do it publicly, his doghouse is usually just as bad or worse than suspension. For instance: practices are closed the majority of the time. He could pretty much kill him in practice for what he feels is the overall team good. If you've ever played the game, you understand what I'm talking about.
Excellent post.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:18 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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I don't see what punishment a coach can levy that will in anyway be comparable to the $2,000 fine
Not less than $600.00 nor more than $2,100.00
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the 6 months monitored probation
Depends on which court he is in. I normally see 24 months unsupervised.
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the 90 days loss of license
Depends on whether he is smart enough to get counsel who can prevent administrative suspensions by timely filing hearing request...and the previous remark doesn't take into consideration a non-administrative suspension based upon a conviction.
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the higher insurance rate
He fricked.
Also, the above comments are assuming he isn't offered a "baby" DUI plea.
IANYA and TINLA
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:20 pm to hsqb
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Vandy rape players, UGA kicker getting a BUI...yes B, LSU Jeremy Hill beatdown, A&M Manziel, AU Mcneal marijuana, Can't think of a UF thing right but come on it's the Gators they always have players arrested.
UF players getting arrested for barking at dogs (must be a communication major).
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:20 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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The only reason that the coaching staff would punish him is because the people expect them to punish him
No it is not. IMO
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:21 pm to nc14
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Now I know the true meaning of tiger bait. Damn they came out of the cellar for this
And you act like you gumps don't!
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:21 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Half serious. I really don't care, and I don't see what punishment a coach can levy that will in anyway be comparable to the $2,000 fine, the 6 months monitored probation, the 90 days loss of license, the higher insurance rate, etc.
Any other punishment is minor in comparison and only hurts the team rather than the individual.
The only reason that the coaching staff would punish him is because the people expect them to punish him.
First offense and no one was hurt, let him play and let the legal system mete out the punishment.
I agree....people are wanting to crucify him for one mistake...it's ridiculous.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:22 pm to NBamaAlum
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No, I didn't. You are under the impression that a person can operate a motor vehicle "more safely" while under the influence of marijuana. Your contention isn't germane. The state has criminalized the act of operating under the influence...beer or weed, doesn't matter...the only difference is the particular subsection in which they charge you and what the state must prove to convict you under that subsection. IT IS STILL A DUI.
You're really attempting to claim that his DUI was the result of weed? Why wasn't there a possession charge then? My contention had nothing to do with which was worse in the eyes of the law. The law is unjust.
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Well, let's see. ADFS issues the tox reports in which a purported green plant-like matter is determined to be marijuana. The process in which BAC is determined is set forth by rules enumerated by the DPS and encompass the procedures adopted by ADFS....so....should I go on?
You seem to be caught up in the procedural aspect of all of this.
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Let me guess. You smoke, eh? Remember to check and make sure your tag light is working the next time you jump behind the wheel after burning one...
Nope. My desire for people to be able to do what they want with their own body is not predicated upon my own use or non-use.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:22 pm to King Crimson
fricking full retard y'all are going in here.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:22 pm to stronghouse
Anyone who says "meh, this is a first offense, not a big deal" has never lost someone close to them to DUI, and that's a fact.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:23 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Half serious. I really don't care, and I don't see what punishment a coach can levy that will in anyway be comparable to the $2,000 fine, the 6 months monitored probation, the 90 days loss of license, the higher insurance rate, etc.
Any other punishment is minor in comparison and only hurts the team rather than the individual.
The only reason that the coaching staff would punish him is because the people expect them to punish him.
First offense and no one was hurt, let him play and let the legal system mete out the punishment.
No, missing game time would not be minor in comparison. The coaching staff should punish him because he put the lives of others at risk.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:25 pm to tampajoe
Congrats, I guess you ar now a gump? Not sure if you made your point or not but hey, it is Auburn right?
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:25 pm to NBamaAlum
Not disagreeing with you. He has 14 days to file for the appeal on the suspension, correct? Or is it 10?
I was basing the $2,000 off $1,500 + $500 for representation.
I would take 6 months supervised over 24 months unsupervised any day of the week. It all depends on jurisdiction.
My point was that the legal system metes out a punishment that is much more severe than anything the team can do other than outright dismissal.
Stadium steps? Really? This isn't a child. At some point, physical punishment stops working -- normally around the age of 12.
Suspending him only hurts the team.
Saban will get crucified if he doesn't suspend him, but I don't believe most coaches would suspend players if they could avoid it. It hurts the team as well as the individual.
LIke I said, I would let the legal system handle punishment and let him know that one more incident like this means he no longer has a place on the team.
I was basing the $2,000 off $1,500 + $500 for representation.
I would take 6 months supervised over 24 months unsupervised any day of the week. It all depends on jurisdiction.
My point was that the legal system metes out a punishment that is much more severe than anything the team can do other than outright dismissal.
Stadium steps? Really? This isn't a child. At some point, physical punishment stops working -- normally around the age of 12.
Suspending him only hurts the team.
Saban will get crucified if he doesn't suspend him, but I don't believe most coaches would suspend players if they could avoid it. It hurts the team as well as the individual.
LIke I said, I would let the legal system handle punishment and let him know that one more incident like this means he no longer has a place on the team.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:25 pm to NBamaAlum
It would still be worse than a simple possession charge. Possessing, in reasonable quantities, alcohol, weed or any other illegal substance is, as a practical matter, not as dangerous as operating a vehicle under the influence of said substance.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:25 pm to hg
Read my sig, I'd say full retard is always in full swing on the TR.
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:28 pm to WDE24
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:28 pm to Yintros
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You're really attempting to claim that his DUI was the result of weed?
No. I made a comment about how funny it would be if he was tagged with a controlled substance DUI after everyone went full tard over the AU weed bust.
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Why wasn't there a possession charge then?
Well, in the hypothetical realm in which we are talking...I guess the same reason not everyone with a booze DUI is hit with an open container violation...you know, the shite has already been consumed?
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The law is unjust.
It is what it is and if you don't like it, run for office and change it.
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You seem to be caught up in the procedural aspect of all of this.
In this hypothetical situation that I jokingly made up? Okay. I guess I am just caught up in it.
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Nope. My desire for people to be able to do what they want with their own body is not predicated upon my own use or non-use.
Use it at home and sit around laughing at SpongeBob....no complaints from me.
However, what if their use affects you? Say...maybe they are so high they don't see your kid run out into the street after a run away ball....
Posted on 8/18/13 at 2:29 pm to WDE24
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It would still be worse than a simple possession charge. Possessing, in reasonable quantities, alcohol, weed or any other illegal substance is, as a practical matter, not as dangerous as operating a vehicle under the influence of said substance.
I agree.
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