re: Alabama and the number 12

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Even though bama only has like 7 titles

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Bzzzt.... Wrong. Bama has 9 legit poll championships. No matter how many times or ways rivals try to devalue them, they are still legit - won according to the rules at the time.

If rivals doesn't want to count our historic titles, fine. But then, the other schools that count historic titles needs to wipe them out of their history too.

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If rivals doesn't want to count our historic titles, fine

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The history books are where the titles from before 1936 and ones that are not AP or coaches poll belong. No need to wipe them from the record books, but no need to count them as = to modern titles either. Put them in the media guide. 9 is a fair number and yes I apply that same standard to other schools. Do people usually say the Packers have 13 NFL titles or 4 Super Bowls? What matters more now? Be proud of those teams from the 20's, but don't act like the "won" a national title because years later some group put out a list and had Bama #1.

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But then, the other schools that count historic titles needs to wipe them out of their history too.

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For a group that talks about others being insecure, you guys sure act like it some time

Earlier in this thread, someone posted a link that mentions 1941 and that Bama claims that title because they were selected in 1 poll. Texas who was selected by 2 sources, but not the AP does not claim 1941.

Texas National Titles

It also mentions OU could claim 17, but only counts 7.

LINK

This is copied and pasted from the NCAA website relating to Poll Champions. I count 17. Most folks think we're being arrogant when we claim 14 but actually we're being gracious.....

2011 NCAA FOOTBALL RECORDS - NATIONAL POLL CHAMPIONS

1925
Alabama: Billingsley, Boand, Football Research, Helms,
Houl gate, National Championship Foundation, Poling,
Sagarin (ELO-Chess)*
Dartmouth: Dickinson, Parke Davis
Michigan: Sagarin*
1926
Alabama: Billingsley, Football Research, Helms*, Na tion al
Cham pionship Foundation*, Poling
Lafayette: Parke Davis
Michigan: Sagarin*
Navy: Boand, Houlgate
Stanford: Dickinson, Helms*, National Championship
Founda tion*, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)*
1930
Alabama: Football Research, Parke Davis*, Sagarin, Sagarin
(ELO-Chess)
Notre Dame: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Dunkel, Helms,
Houl gate, National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis*,
Poling
1934
Alabama: Dunkel, Houlgate, Poling, William son
Minnesota: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Foot ball Research,
Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation,
Sagarin, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)
1941
Alabama: Houlgate
Minnesota: AP, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, Foot ball
Re search, Helms, Litkenhous, National Cham pi on ship Foundation,
Poling, Sagarin, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)
Texas: Berryman, Williamson
1945
Alabama: National Championship Foundation*
Army: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel,
Football Research, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, Na tional
Cham pion ship Foundation*, Poling, Sagarin, Sagarin (ELOChess),
Williamson
1961
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB
News, Football Research, Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship
Foundation, NFF, Sagarin, Sagarin (ELO-Chess), UPI,
Williamson
Ohio St.: FW, Poling
1964
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Litkenhous, UPI
Arkansas: Billingsley, Football Research, FW, Helms,
Na tional Championship Foundation, Poling, Sagarin,
Sagarin (ELO-Chess)
Michigan: Dunkel
Notre Dame: DeVold, FB News, NFF
1965
Alabama: AP, Football Research, FW*, Na tion al
Championship Foundation
Michigan St.: Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB
News, FW*, Helms, Litkenhous, NFF, Poling, Sagarin, Sagarin
(ELO-Chess), UPI
1966
Alabama: Berryman, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)*
Michigan St.: Football Research, Helms*, NFF*, Poling*
Notre Dame: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB News,
FW, Helms*, Litkenhous, Matthews, National
1973
Alabama: Berryman, UPI
Michigan: National Championship Foundation*, Poling*
Notre Dame: AP, Billingsley, FB News, FW, Helms, National
Cham pionship Foundation*, NFF
Ohio St.: FACT, National Championship Foundation*,
Poling*, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)*
Oklahoma: DeVold, Dunkel, Football Re search, Sagarin*
1975
Alabama: Matthews*
Arizona St.: National Championship Foundation*,
Sporting News
Ohio St.: Berryman, FACT*, Helms*, Matthews*, Poling
Oklahoma: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT*, FB News,
Football Research, FW, Helms*, National Cham pi on ship
Foundation*,
1977
Alabama: Football Research*
Arkansas: FACT*
Notre Dame: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT*, FB
News, Football Research*, FW, Helms, Matthews, Na tion al
Championship Foundation, NFF, Poling, Sagarin*, Spor ting
News, UPI
Texas: Berryman, FACT*, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)*
1978
Alabama: AP, FACT*, Football Research, FW, Helms*,
Na tion al Championship Foundation*, NFF
Oklahoma: DeVold, Dunkel, FACT*, Helms*, Litkenhous,
Matthews, Poling, Sagarin*
Southern California: Berryman, Billingsley, FACT*, FB
News, Helms*, National Championship Foundation*,
Sagarin (ELO-Chess)*, Spor ting News, UPI
1979
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT,
FB News, FW, Helms, Matthews, National Cham pi onship
Foundation, NFF, NY Times, Poling, Sagarin, Sagarin (ELOChess),
Spor ting News, UPI
Southern California: Football Research
1992
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck,
FACT, FB News, Football Research, FW, Matthews, Na tion al
Championship Foundation, NY Times, Sagarin (ELO-Chess)*,
Sporting News, UPI/NFF, USA/CNN
Florida St.: Sagarin*
2009
Alabama: ^BCS, USA Today, AP; FW, NFF, Harris