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re: Aggies quickly becoming the most hated in he SEC
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Manziel played special teams full time?
No, and your smart comeback did not beat his argument.
The score was 24-12 in the LSU game when the Aggies scored a garbage touchdown in the waning minutes to make the game appear close. LSU had 97 yards passing. Aggies lost to a one-dimensional offense, but they won't admit it. A lights out Mettenberger would have shredded the Aggies secondary.
Florida did not have a passing game, but they managed to defeat the Aggies too. When you lose to a team with a bad offense, you should quit making excuses. Sure, Bertolet missed kicks in both games, but that doesn't mean your defense had to give up 20 and 24 points to one dimensional offenses.
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Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:18 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I don't think Manziel did either. It wasn't until that Miss State game where I think Manziel had complete control of the running/passing game when we started to implement the option. Until then, it was almost exclusively scrambles and QB draws. I have no doubt in my mind that Texas A&M would have beaten Florida by 40 had a rematch happened at the end of the year.
BS! Now, you're just going overboard with homerism. Florida had the SEC's best defense and hadn't given up more than 26 points on defense all season, and you think the Aggies would beat that. Florida didn't even show up against Louisville, but Louisville only scored 26 points against Florida. One touchdown came immediately after the bad onside kick call. I'm not going to argue with you. Your post was ignorant. Heck, you didn't even beat Oklahoma by 40, and Oklahoma did not have a defense.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:19 pm to Gardevoir
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Florida did not have a passing game, but they managed to defeat the Aggies too. When you lose to a team with a bad offense, you should quit making excuses. Sure, Bertolet missed kicks in both games, but that doesn't mean your defense had to give up 20 and 24 points to one dimensional offenses.
I agree with this. No excuses.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:21 pm to Gardevoir
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I don't think Manziel did either. It wasn't until that Miss State game where I think Manziel had complete control of the running/passing game when we started to implement the option. Until then, it was almost exclusively scrambles and QB draws. I have no doubt in my mind that Texas A&M would have beaten Florida by 40 had a rematch happened at the end of the year.
I also agree with this bold part.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:22 pm to Gardevoir
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I have no doubt in my mind that Texas A&M would have beaten Florida by 40 had a rematch happened at the end of the year.
I do.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:25 pm to bopper50
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:43 pm to KaiserSoze99
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I do.
Thanks for being reasonable.
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How many INTs did the vaunted LSU D ring up on Alabama? Surely if the blasé aggie D was literally dictating what Bama was to do on offense in the 2nd half, the Tigers must have absolutely shackled the Tide.
TBirdSpur2010, could you have chosen a worse stat? How about you compare QuarterBack ratings between this game, the LSU game, and the Georgia game? How about you compare passing yards?
versus LSU: 165 yards, 14/27, 6.1 yards/pass
This was his worse performance. McCarron was 1/7 for 0 yards in the second half before the "AJ to TJ" drive.
versus A&M: 309 yards, 21/34, 9.1 yards/pass
Aggies weakness was the deep ball, but Alabama just discovered it late. Those deep completions were not fluke plays. How do you excuse Alabama throwing for over 300 yards? Georgia gave up two plays, but held Alabama under 200 yards passing.
versus Georgia: 162 yards, 13/21, 7.7 yards/pass
One pass was a 44 yard jump ball that Cooper beat Rambo on in the 2nd. The other was a 45 yard play action pass, where Georgia was tuned in on trying to stop the run. Take off those 89 yards, and things look much worse.
All 3 performances came after the MSST game, in which AJ McCarron injured his ribs which affected his passing. Now, objectively, you tell me which was AJ McCarron's worse performance of the season? Who had the toughest secondary? Do I need to bring up more stats?
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Dominated?....Hardly.....Aggie made the plays when it counted to win the game and I am not disputing that...your OP was about the dominating A&M offense when in fact Bama put up more yards than Aggie did....if not for the turnovers, Bama wins....Nick and Kirby figured you guys out and adjusted quickly, hence the 9 points in three quarters...again, the turnovers were the difference...but that is football...... Congrats on the biggest win in your lifetime and we will see what happens in a few months.
You're playing TeLeFaWx's game, but you are spot on sir. Add in the two missed field goals and missed extra point, and they'd have only scored 16 in three quarters which does not match the explosiveness of the 1st quarter. Alabama left points on the field too.
Let me guess what's next. An Aggie will argue that A&M figured out A&M figured Alabama after the second quarter. Alabama scored 14 in the second but only scored 10 in the second half. I can debate that one too.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:47 pm to Gardevoir
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You're playing TeLeFaWx's game
You mean the spouting off complete homer bullshite! That game sucks and is getting old
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I'm sure taking your Heisman winner away in games you won by razor thin margins would have had no effect at all
Draconian, this is probably the stupidest argument in the history of sports debates. Yeah, if we didn't have our best player on the field, Heisman winning QB and SEC offense record setter, we probably would have lost a few more games. How long did it take you to come up with that frigging gem of intelligence?
If the Bulls didn't have Jordan they would have sucked.
If the Patriots didn't have Brady they would have sucked.
If the Oilers didn't have Gretzky they would have sucked.
If it wasn't for Billy Cannon, LSU would have sucked. (literally, you would have lost 5 games in 1958)
Yadda, yadda, yadda.
So yeah, if we didn't have Manziel we would have sucked. Anything else you want to add twinkle toes?
Posted on 7/3/13 at 12:59 pm to wmr
I think people are developing hate for Aggies do to early success. If A&M sucked nobody would care.
While I think A&M is a little ahead of itself - they need to get two deep EVERYWHERE to stay in the top half of SEC They got there now because of JFF and D stepped up and OL. JFF will hide defensive weaknesses this year but D could be a problem.
The thing is, I believe people are realizing with the recruiting success so far, with the 450,000,000 stadium expansion, that A&M has the tools to compete with Bama, LSU, Fla and Ga. When A&M came to SEC they left behind the old baggage in the administration and power in doners. That is why you see all the branding and a different feel. A&M always was thought to be the sleeping giant. They are waking up and running a football program now.
Yes - as far as the tools - A&M can hang with the top 5. Whether or not they will is yet to be determined - but they have the tools to do so and everybody sees that.
In my mind it will be determined by DL and DB recruting. I think Sumlin will crush offensive recruiting. Allen is lighting up the elite 11. Defensive recruiting is good as well SO FAR.
What A&M doesnt understand yet is how difficult it is to keep that level of recruiting, developing, reloading, coaching, crisis mgmt, etc... Its amazing how many NFL guys have come through LSU and Bama in last decade - its sick. I dont know if even Bama and LSU can keep it up. But A&M will have to show they can build it up and keep it going. Long way to go.
While I think A&M is a little ahead of itself - they need to get two deep EVERYWHERE to stay in the top half of SEC They got there now because of JFF and D stepped up and OL. JFF will hide defensive weaknesses this year but D could be a problem.
The thing is, I believe people are realizing with the recruiting success so far, with the 450,000,000 stadium expansion, that A&M has the tools to compete with Bama, LSU, Fla and Ga. When A&M came to SEC they left behind the old baggage in the administration and power in doners. That is why you see all the branding and a different feel. A&M always was thought to be the sleeping giant. They are waking up and running a football program now.
Yes - as far as the tools - A&M can hang with the top 5. Whether or not they will is yet to be determined - but they have the tools to do so and everybody sees that.
In my mind it will be determined by DL and DB recruting. I think Sumlin will crush offensive recruiting. Allen is lighting up the elite 11. Defensive recruiting is good as well SO FAR.
What A&M doesnt understand yet is how difficult it is to keep that level of recruiting, developing, reloading, coaching, crisis mgmt, etc... Its amazing how many NFL guys have come through LSU and Bama in last decade - its sick. I dont know if even Bama and LSU can keep it up. But A&M will have to show they can build it up and keep it going. Long way to go.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 1:35 pm to NutHanger Farm
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I think people are developing hate for Aggies do to early success. If A&M sucked nobody would care.
While I think A&M is a little ahead of itself - they need to get two deep EVERYWHERE to stay in the top half of SEC They got there now because of JFF and D stepped up and OL. JFF will hide defensive weaknesses this year but D could be a problem.
The thing is, I believe people are realizing with the recruiting success so far, with the 450,000,000 stadium expansion, that A&M has the tools to compete with Bama, LSU, Fla and Ga. When A&M came to SEC they left behind the old baggage in the administration and power in doners. That is why you see all the branding and a different feel. A&M always was thought to be the sleeping giant. They are waking up and running a football program now.
Yes - as far as the tools - A&M can hang with the top 5. Whether or not they will is yet to be determined - but they have the tools to do so and everybody sees that.
In my mind it will be determined by DL and DB recruting. I think Sumlin will crush offensive recruiting. Allen is lighting up the elite 11. Defensive recruiting is good as well SO FAR.
What A&M doesnt understand yet is how difficult it is to keep that level of recruiting, developing, reloading, coaching, crisis mgmt, etc... Its amazing how many NFL guys have come through LSU and Bama in last decade - its sick. I dont know if even Bama and LSU can keep it up. But A&M will have to show they can build it up and keep it going. Long way to go.
Welcome to the RANT. 
Posted on 7/3/13 at 2:45 pm to Gardevoir
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What A&M doesnt understand yet is how difficult it is to keep that level of recruiting, developing, reloading, coaching, crisis mgmt, etc.
Good post, and this is the only sentence I'd disagree with. I think most reasonable fans do understand that and it's our front 7 this year that is the biggest concern. If A&M doesn't have the same luck with the lack of injuries this year, it could get ugly and we could turn into BYU - score 70 because you need to. I don't think anybody who honestly pays attention will compare A&M's defensive depth to LSU or 'Bama - yet. Kevin Praise His Name Sumlin will fix that ASAP. Umm... I hope.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 3:53 pm to wmr
It's because they got lucky their first year in the SEC.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 4:20 pm to TooCold
Technically when MJ went to play baseball, the bulls only lost 6 more games, and were screwed from another title chance by a terrible series of play/calls against the Knicks. Pippen sat out the final 1.8 seconds when the play was drawn up for Kukoc... If they would have won that championship Nike and the nba would have to change their entire marketing scheme.
Michael Jordan changed how the game was played, but his almost God like reputation and reverence he's given isn't deserved. He was the best player in the league for several years, but people put him on a higher platform. /rant
Michael Jordan changed how the game was played, but his almost God like reputation and reverence he's given isn't deserved. He was the best player in the league for several years, but people put him on a higher platform. /rant
Posted on 7/3/13 at 4:23 pm to Gardevoir
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Those deep completions were not fluke plays.
Absolutely they were.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 4:24 pm to NutHanger Farm
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I think people are developing hate for Aggies do to early success. If A&M sucked nobody would care.
Not true at all,
Living in Texas I welcomed TAMU into the SEC because I knew that in the long run it would help LSU in recruiting and the overall health of the SEC.
But the Aggie fans are worse than us, and that is saying a lot !
Posted on 7/3/13 at 4:26 pm to finestfirst79
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I don't think anybody who honestly pays attention will compare A&M's defensive depth to LSU or 'Bama - yet. Kevin Praise His Name Sumlin will fix that ASAP. Umm... I hope.
Sumerlin will be gone in 2 years or less. He has NFL dreams.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 4:47 pm to bopper50
Its the investment the A&M Brass are making that leads me to my conclusions. You don't put 450 million in a new stadium and then not toss in a few more to get the best coach available. A&M will be a heck of a force in the bidding wars at some point. If Sumlin leaves I would project they makes great hires from here on out as opposed to their prior debacles.
Im guessing - thats just a lot of money on a stadium. 450 million - Damn Gina
Texas is in the SEC now - and it aint UT. Its ATM. That seems sturdy. A&M turned the Table. Texas will still be good - and eek in to the 4 team probably and spout off. But they are gonna get their Boise Style. Texas A&M is goning to be THE school in Texas. Texas is in the wac now.
The comments made by Bama's recent OL flip from UCLA says it all. His comments and many like it benefit all of the SEC. It will will lead top Texas talent to the SEC. Not all A&M - but they should get theirs.
Long road to go - will be fun to watch one way or another.
Football games with hate are the best kind - if everyone hates A&M they brought alot to the dance right there.
Passion - any way you can get it - love or hate makes for loud Stadiums. Which makes me happy.
Im guessing - thats just a lot of money on a stadium. 450 million - Damn Gina
Texas is in the SEC now - and it aint UT. Its ATM. That seems sturdy. A&M turned the Table. Texas will still be good - and eek in to the 4 team probably and spout off. But they are gonna get their Boise Style. Texas A&M is goning to be THE school in Texas. Texas is in the wac now.
The comments made by Bama's recent OL flip from UCLA says it all. His comments and many like it benefit all of the SEC. It will will lead top Texas talent to the SEC. Not all A&M - but they should get theirs.
Long road to go - will be fun to watch one way or another.
Football games with hate are the best kind - if everyone hates A&M they brought alot to the dance right there.
Passion - any way you can get it - love or hate makes for loud Stadiums. Which makes me happy.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 4:51 pm to bopper50
10 pages already. SEC loves us.
Posted on 7/3/13 at 5:03 pm to bopper50
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But the Aggie fans are worse than us, and that is saying a lot !
Oh the horror if they win the Alabama game again.
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