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re: Addressing the "attacking style" Chavis defense claims - Gulf War Edition
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The question is whether or not Chavis combined with our superior offensive prowess will make us a better overall team in the long run.
Then you will be an overall better team next season from a scheme standpoint. How much better over the long-term will be determined by the players you get.
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:29 pm to DawgsLife
Ok. So....where was all the outrage about Chavis before he went to A&M? He didn't recruit, his defense was soft/garbage.....I don't understand why so many of you defended him and none criticized him. I mean, now that he is at A&M plenty of you are criticizing him. Why not before?
I'm surprised a UGA fan does not remember the game two years ago. You never heard criticism until now?
I'm surprised a UGA fan does not remember the game two years ago. You never heard criticism until now?
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:58 pm to Will2nd
I heard criticism. All coaches are criticized.
But John Chavis is a damn good coach. LSU hasn't finished worse than 5th in the conference in scoring defense and 6th in total defense his first year, every other year they were top 3. In one season he turned LSU from one of the worst scoring defenses in 2008 to 11th in the NATION the very next year.
I'm not trying to say LSU can't replace him, but Texas A&M getting him is huge for them. They seriously can't get any worse. I expect them to see a lot of fundamental improvement but it might not truly show on the stat sheet.
But John Chavis is a damn good coach. LSU hasn't finished worse than 5th in the conference in scoring defense and 6th in total defense his first year, every other year they were top 3. In one season he turned LSU from one of the worst scoring defenses in 2008 to 11th in the NATION the very next year.
I'm not trying to say LSU can't replace him, but Texas A&M getting him is huge for them. They seriously can't get any worse. I expect them to see a lot of fundamental improvement but it might not truly show on the stat sheet.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:06 pm to dhuck20
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I heard criticism. All coaches are criticized. But John Chavis is a damn good coach. LSU hasn't finished worse than 5th in the conference in scoring defense and 6th in total defense his first year, every other year they were top 3. In one season he turned LSU from one of the worst scoring defenses in 2008 to 11th in the NATION the very next year. I'm not trying to say LSU can't replace him, but Texas A&M getting him is huge for them. They seriously can't get any worse. I expect them to see a lot of fundamental improvement but it might not truly show on the stat sheet.
I think just the better fundamentals/attitude/confidence will help a ton... You'll never see A&M fans say we're going to dominate defensively or that LSU is going to completely fall off a cliff, but LSU fans are so adamant and dramatic about it.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 10:46 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I watched the Tennessee defenses dominate teams for 3 1/2 quarters, and then look like a Sunseri defense when the game was on the line. I watched this happen, many times.
I don't know why Chief has never considered that perhaps the Mustang defense just doesn't work.
You guys tried to tell LSU fans this when he was hired. We get it now.
I liked The Chief when he was at LSU. But now that he's gone, and the recruiting is better than it's ever been, I've moved on. I like what I hear from new DC Steele about a more aggressive approach towards disrupting the opposing QB. It was always a source of worry to me that LSU was constantly low in the sack rankings.
The Chief is one of the best DC's in the world for three quarters. And one of the worst in the fourth quarter.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:34 am to TigersOfGeauxld
LSU was really good under Chavis.
LSU is better with an attacking D.
Thanks Chavis but see ya
LSU is better with an attacking D.
Thanks Chavis but see ya
Posted on 6/24/15 at 3:36 am to rmnldr
It's not Chavis' fault that LSU's DBs are overrated in pass coverage and can't tackle.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 3:41 am
Posted on 6/24/15 at 5:07 am to Roger Klarvin
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MSU, Ole Miss, Mizzu and Auburn all run variations of the spread. USC doesn't run a spread scheme but they aren't going to line up under center in the single back/I-formation and beat you regularly at the LOS. Bama and LSU are the only two teams we will play annually who both run a true power run scheme AND will have more talent than us. We should be able to outclass Arkansas with talent more years than not.
Auburn may line up in the spread, but if you don't think they run a power run game offense you are delusional. The majority of Auburn's runs are between the tackles. If you need a reminder go watch the game against LSU from last year.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:42 am to dhuck20
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In one season he turned LSU from one of the worst scoring defenses in 2008 to 11th in the NATION the very next year.
You know what helped with that? The fact that in 2008 LSU had to replace a huge amount of talent that left after 2007. Glenn Dorsey, Ali Highsmith, Craig Steltz and both CBs were gone.
Don't get me wrong, Chavis was leaps and bounds better than the double-headed disaster, but to act like he's the sole reason for that improvement is as ignorant as it gets.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:45 am to DannyB
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Auburn may line up in the spread, but if you don't think they run a power run game offense you are delusional. The majority of Auburn's runs are between the tackles. If you need a reminder go watch the game against LSU from last year.
They are going to ignore this post, just like they ignored mine when I said the exact same thing. Also, the fact that he left Arky, who runs the ball as much as LSU, out of the "true power running teams" is hilarious.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:14 pm to dhuck20
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In one season he turned LSU from one of the worst scoring defenses in 2008 to 11th in the NATION the very next year.
Apparently you don't realize that LSU had the #3 ranked defense in the NATION in 2007.
...LSU also had the #4 ranked defense in the NATION in 2006.
...and the #3 ranked defense in the NATION in 2005.
It's not like Chavis was starting from scratch, LSU had had exactly ONE down year before he got here.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
"It's like these kids think its the LSU brand and not John Chavis being the reason for LSU's defensive superiority"
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:24 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Shhhhh. Don't bring any rationality into the conversation.
They're beyond delusional.
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NFLSU
They're beyond delusional.This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:26 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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This is 1 thing I hate about our fans.. The complete absence of rationality. They would have laughed anyone out of the room who didn't think Chavis was the best coordinator in the SEC
Not true. In 2011/2012 it was true. But since then the bloom had come off the rose. This season many Tiger fans were pissed at Chavis. For my part, I think he is a very good defensive coordinator and a shitty recruiter. Although he is a good DC, he had some shortcomings around being predictable in end-of-game situations.All things considered, I'd give him a 7 out of 10. And that's probably about what we hired in Steele.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:27 pm to Penrod
I like how he said that when in my OP I didn't say Chavis was a bad DC at all.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:29 pm to rmnldr
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rmnldr
16 pages....excellent job
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:30 pm to Choctaw
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:30 pm to rmnldr
I'm just ready for the next top Texas prospect to commit to the P&G then the inevitable "GUYZ. February is a longgg time away. Once they see the New Wrecking Crew, we'll have a very, Merry Flipmas."
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:35 pm to NFLSU
They say we should be waiting for a "melt" when we beat them. We're just waiting for them to melt yet again when they lose another prospect to the LSU Dream Team.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 1:41 pm to rmnldr
I almost would rather watch the game on TV just to see the cameras locked on Chavis while we repeatedly run it straight down his new defense throats. Fournette will be done by the end of the 3rd quarter and a freshman RB will have their career high against Aggy..again.
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