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re: Aaron Murray to join elite company in 2013

Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:56 pm to
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USC is the backup school for people who can't get in to UGA and can afford out of state.
USC was my one and only choice. I only know one person from my high school that went to Georgia, and she has a dead tooth. I graduated from one of the top high schools in the state and most kids went to Clemson or SC. A few went to Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, Furman, CofC, Winthrop etc. Overall academics at a university are pretty low on a high school Junior's list of reasons to go there. Money offered, location, and good college for your major are probably the biggest three reasons for picking a specific college.
Posted by Gamecox20
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:56 pm to
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wouldn't tahj boyd be in your elite group also?


No, Kyle Parker started when Tahj was a frosh. No doubt, we'd love to add either of those two dipshits into that elite group if it were possible.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:58 pm to
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wouldn't tahj boyd be in your elite group also?
No, he'll only lose 3. They had some blond baseball player start in 2010. We knocked him out of the game though and Tahj played in the 4th.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:00 pm to
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Why are gamecock fans so mad though?
I don't think any of us are mad. You Georgia fans just had an entire conversation with yourselves on page 6- 15 out of 19 posts.
Posted by Gamecox20
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:03 pm to
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We understand we are your Super Bowl but life will return to normal sooner than later and we will kick the dogshit out of you every year.




I hope you realize Clemson is our yearly Super Bowl. Before SOS, we were very competitive with y'all as well so those days of "kicking the dogshit out of us" on a regular basis are over.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:13 pm to
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Before SOS, we were very competitive with y'all as well so those days of "kicking the dog shite out of us" on a regular basis are over.

This. Look Uga fans, we know we have a shitty record against y'all. It's 17-46-2. A .26 win percentage. But since we joined the SEC in '92 the record is still in your favor, but closer. We're 8-13 against y'all, a .38 win percentage. Under Spurrier we're .500 against y'all and he'll still be here til 2017...
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:21 pm to
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So dramatic, good God...

I completely know that we had an easier schedule the last 2 years, what I am saying is that I knew absolutely zero Dawg fans that cried and cried the years (08 and 09 come to mind) when we had a harder schedule.

Does that make sense?

Historically our permanent opponent (Auburn) is far superior to (Arkansas), it just didn't get brought up because Carolina hasn't been relevant most of their time in the SEC. Now that you are, you are noticing scheduling differences, it doesn't mean that differences in schedules are something new.


Let's look at 2008 and 2009, shall we?

2008 ... SCAR played Ole Miss in Oxford. (They finished 9-4 and #14 in the country). The #11 (at the time) LSU at home (they finished 8-5 and unranked) and Arkansas at home (they finished 5-7). We both played eventual national champ UF, we played them in the swamp.

2008 ... Dawgs played Bama at home (Bama finished 12-2 and #6), #15 (at the time) LSU in Baton Rouge (they finished 8-5 and unranked), Auburn at Auburn (they finished 5-7).

So how do you rate Georgia's schedule tougher in 2008 than South Carolina's?

2009 ... SCAR played the #4 team in the country (when we played them) Ole Miss at home, (they finished 9-4 and #20). The #1 team in the country and eventual national champ Bama, at Bama, (they finished 14-0 and #1), at Arkansas, (they finished 8-5 and unranked).

2009 ... Dawgs played @ Arkansas (they finished 8-5 and unranked), the #4 ranked LSU Tigers (at the time) at home (they finished 9-4 and ranked #17), Auburn at home (they finished 8-5 and unranked).

So how is it that you mutts keep claiming you played a tougher schedule in 2009?

I can't wait to read this. No doubt we are about to be completely plastered with some more dawg bullshite.

Now, with regard to comparing Auburn and Arkansas.

South Carolina, since expansion, played Auburn in '96, '97, '05, 06, x2 in 2010 and then again in 2011. Auburn went, during those years, a combined 60-17.

UGA, since expansion, played Arkansas in '92, '93, 2000, 01, 02, 04, 05, 2009 and 2010. Arkansas went, during those years, a combined 57-49-2.

So I think it is safe to say SCAR played Auburn during their best years, would you agree? While, at the same time, Georgia caught Arkansas during their worst years. Yes or no?

to be fair, let's compare Arkansas and Auburn, overall, since expansion, let's look at it this way and see how it pans-out.

Since expansion Arkansas has gone a combined 141-106-2, while Auburn has gone a combined 171-86-1.

So with regard to who has been the tougher permanent opponent from the West, no doubt Georgia had the tougher draw. Auburn has averaged 1.3 more wins a year than Arkansas during that frame of time. And Arkansas has averaged one more loss per year during that frame of time. So it's a two game swing average per season and, while dominant, it is substantial.

Interestingly enough, as a side note, the Auburn vs Arkansas series is dead even at 10-10-1 since expansion with the average score slightly in Arkansas' favor at 24.3 to 23.9 pts per game vs Auburn.

Funny how football works out that way some times.

(Edited to update rankings based-upon objections by Dawg fans below. I used the 2008 and 2009 AP Polls according to the weeks the games were played and then using the final AP Polls from both seasons.)
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:25 pm to
Funny how you point out that ole miss was 6 when you played them in 2009 and didn't mention that lsu was in the top 5 when we played them.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:28 pm to
And the bs penalty on AJ Green.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90543 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:33 pm to
I haven't posted in this thread because it's completely stupid and going in circles, but I did want to comment on this recent post.

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2008 ... SCAR played the #15 team in the country (at the time) Ole Miss in Oxford. (They finished 9-4). The #12 (at the time) LSU at home (they finished 8-5) and Arkansas at home (they finished 5-7). We both played eventual national champ UF, we played them in the swamp.

2008 ... Dawgs played Bama at home (Bama finished 12-2), #11 LSU in Baton Rouge (they finished 8-5), Auburn at Auburn (they finished 5-7).

So how do you rate Georgia's schedule tougher in 2008 than South Carolina's?


First of all, you're quick to point out what ole miss's ranking was at the time bc it makes your case look better, yet you didn't say how they finished (although you pointed out the 4 losses). Bama started the year 12-0 and was ranked #1.

-Bama >>>> ole miss
-we both played LSU, but we were in BR and you had them at home
-Arky and Au both went 5-7, but we played in AU and yall had ark at home
-we both played in state OOC rivals. GT was pretty good that year, I have no idea abt clemson
-We also flew across the country to play @ASU

So basically, there is no way any reasonable, rational, moderately intelligent person could say that UGA's schedule wasn't tougher than SC's in 2008. Not even close.


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2009 ... SCAR played the #6 team in the country (when we played them) Ole Miss at home, (they finished 9-4). The #1 team in the country and eventual national champ Bama, at Bama, they finished 14-0, at Arkansas, (they finished 8-5).

2009 ... Dawgs played @ Arkansas (they finished 8-5), LSU at home (they finished 9-4), Auburn at home (they finished 9-4).

So how is it that you mutts keep claiming you played a tougher schedule in 2009?


Again, you point out ole miss was #6 when you played them, but again they finished with 4 losses. So they really weren't the 6th best team at all. Bama is the trump card as that is the hardest matchup either of us faced. We both played at arkansas. AU and OM can cancel each other out. So you have the edge with bama, but also consider we opened the season halfway across the country @OSU, and also played the ACC champ in the finale. So you could MAYBE make a case SC's schedule was tougher, but you could just as easily give the nod to ours as well.


Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4495 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:40 pm to
scrooster, you are seriously coming across like you have a terrible persecution complex. You literally seem to think your team has a harder schedule than UGA every single year.

Has there been a conspiracy against South Carolina all along? You won't grant that in the SEC schedule rotation era UGA has ever had a single year with a more difficult schedule than South Carolina?

I get complaining about 2012, it was a one-time deal where the normal rotations got thrown off and some teams couldn't do return trips that were scheduled. But this "UGA had an easy schedule in 2008 and 2009!" stuff is scary. In your mind has UGA ever played a hard schedule?

Don't let legitimate complaints about 2012 turn you into a tinfoil hat wearer.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:56 pm to
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Funny how you point out that ole miss was 6 when you played them in 2009 and didn't mention that lsu was in the top 5 when we played them.


That's fine, mention it. I wasn't following that game that closely so I had no idea - thanks for filling in the blank. (BTW, I just looked and Ole Miss was actually #4 when we played them. LSu was #4 when you played them as well.) I think I went out of my way to track-down final records however, and since you bring it up, Ole Miss beat LSU in 2009 and finished ahead of them in most of the polls. (Although the AP had LSU #17 and Ole Miss #20). Ole Miss also won their bowl game in 2009, LSU did not. So you if you wanna make a point about the rankings at the time they played, that's okay, so long as you are willing to accept the reality of the rest of it. Ole Miss was the better team in '09, they beat LSU heads-up and won their bowl, it is what it is. How any Dawg fan can claim LSU was the tougher opponent that year ... well, lulz, you mutts are killing me - stop it, you're making my ribs ache.

Anyways, so again I ask, how is it that you Dawgs keep claiming that you played tougher SEC schedules both of those years?
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 3:23 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:01 pm to
That was one if the dumbest fricking things I have ever heard
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:02 pm to
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But this "UGA had an easy schedule in 2008 and 2009!" stuff is scary


Show me where I typed that anywhere or suck my dick.

In other words, either admit you just lied your fricking arse off while trying to make a point, or open wide and prepare for me to skull frick your lying arse.

lulz, "persecution complex?"

And sure, UGA has had some tougher schedules, more often than not SCAR and UGA have both played tough schedules ... but if you will notice, I was responding to someone who claimed UGA played tougher SEC schedules in '08 and '09 ... which UGA did not. But, as predicted, there has since been massive amounts of Dawg bullshite splattered everywhere ... funny stuff, thanks guys.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4495 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:06 pm to
I've egged this thing on for way too long. I'll simply admit defeat and leave the thread. A few things I need to clear up


-scrooster definitely does NOT ask for oral sex from anonymous internet posters. The posting above where he does so is merely a result of UGA's easy schedule

-UGA has never played a hard schedule in the entire history of college football

-UGA has cheated to have an easy schedule

-scrooster is a martyr on par with MLK, Socrates and Joan of Arc for having to confront these dirty, nasty, cheating schedules every single year of college football's existence

-The University of South Carolina is definitely NOT a backup school for UGA applicants from the Augusta area. UGA simply cheats with all of those GPA and SAT score reports similar to how they cheat to get an easy schedule every year
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158698 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:19 pm to
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Under Spurrier we're .500 against y'all and he'll still be here til 2017...


Goodness me I hope not. I don't want Steve to Bobby Bowden himself before he comes home.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:27 pm to
SOS is 68, will be 73 in 2017. Bobby has like 10 years on him
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
44371 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:31 pm to
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I've egged this thing on for way too long. I'll simply admit defeat and leave the thread. A few things I need to clear up


-scrooster definitely does NOT ask for oral sex from anonymous internet posters. The posting above where he does so is merely a result of UGA's easy schedule

-UGA has never played a hard schedule in the entire history of college football

-UGA has cheated to have an easy schedule

-scrooster is a martyr on par with MLK, Socrates and Joan of Arc for having to confront these dirty, nasty, cheating schedules every single year of college football's existence

-The University of South Carolina is definitely NOT a backup school for UGA applicants from the Augusta area. UGA simply cheats with all of those GPA and SAT score reports similar to how they cheat to get an easy schedule every year


You're leaving the thread because what was a good debate turned into you lying to try to prove your point and you were called on it. You claim to know what I am thinking when, clearly, I typed what I was thinking. You lied and attributed a quote to me, which I typed nowhere in this thread.

If you want to debate like a butthurt beauty queen, then don't enter into debates with me. Don't put words in my mouth and don't lie.

(I readily admit) UGA has played plenty of tough schedules. So you told another lie.

(I readily admit) UGA has, to my knowledge, never cheated to have an easy schedule ...so you told another lie.

"scrooster" (me) is simply offering-up facts, stats, numbers and results to the debate ... claiming me to be a martyr is more beauty queen female drama stuff on your behalf and I have no time or patience or tolerance for drama queens who claim to be psychic and/or clairvoyant who also lie about what is clearly typed right in front of their eyes.

As far as the SCAR is a backup school to UGA, wtf? ... lulz, you've taken it from the ridiculous to the sublime. If this is how you debate your points, by adding absolutely zero accuracy to the debate? Well, you go boy. But grown men are likely to continue to hold disdain for you if you continue to resort to those tactics in life. Regards
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:36 pm to
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Awhile? Seriously? Yeah the last 2 years the schedules were fricked up. What about the 20 or so years before where we played Auburn every year while you guys got Arkansas. On average Arkansas wasn't in the same league. Everything else was just a rotation.

In 2008 we played Alabama LSU and Auburn from the west. No UGA fans cried like bitches we actually embraced the games and the big time atmosphere they bring.


ESPN has a listing of top 25 rankings that goes as far back as 2002. Checking out the AP Top 25 for those seasons, UGA played against 46 opponents that finished those seasons ranked top 25, USC played against 47. Of those ranked opponents, UGA played against 10 opponents that finished in the top 5, USC played 12. Of those, UGA played against 4 opponents that finished ranked #1 in the nation, USC played 6.....

Talking about UGA that since 2002 has played in 5 SECCGs, which is an extra 14th game of the season and typically versus an opponent that is at least contending for top-5 rankings if not for national titles. South Carolina in that same time span has only played in 1 SECCG....


This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 3:42 pm
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20639 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:47 pm to
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