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re: A Super League or bigger playoff. Something will change

Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
5206 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:42 pm to
Why don't we just take lessons from Div 2 playoffs. Their system has been working well for years.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:47 pm to
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alabama fans would have been unconcerned about the system had they gotten in.


I'd go back to the Shula years if it meant the rest of college football went back in terms of conferences and the BCS.

It was honestly more enjoyable.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
11605 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:54 pm to
Play an 10-11 game season, expand playoff to top 25 teams. Top 5 conference champs get bye and 2 others get bye. Get rid of a lot of bowls and conference championship games. Final 4 on neutral sites. Start portal after the natty and go back to February signing day.
Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
728 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:40 pm to
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Not anytime soon. 2026 we go to 16 games (which is why rosters are expanding to 105). After that it'll stay, as is, for a couple of decades.

I tend to agree w this. I think conference winners will get an auto-bid but no longer a first round bye and top-4 seed. Rather it’ll be seeded based on final CFP rankings.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4710 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:38 pm to
If they’re gonna pay players like the NFL, then structure the conferences like the NFL. And put in salary caps, buyouts, and trade rules.

If the smaller schools can’t come up with enough dough to meet the cap, then tough tittie and they will lose players bc of it. As for the players, if they’re asking too much and will bust the cap, then tough tittie… take a cut or get left out in the cold. The kids wanna make a “bidnis dusisun”, then let them make it, good and hard.


Oh, and no more scholarships. They pay for their schooling out of their contract.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 11:58 pm
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
2085 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:26 am to
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wish I could get in a time machine and go back to 1982.


Me too, for a lot of reasons..
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:07 am to
Super league of about 32 teams in 4 divisions of 8 is where we are headed.

UGA, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, OU, Texas and ATM

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA

Notre Dame

FSU, Miami, Clemson

Thats 20. The other 12 really aren't currently playing the same game and haven't in a while but could include the likes of Ole Miss, Missouri, Nebraska, Wisconsin, South Carolina, maybe Arizona, Colorado, Minnesota - Hell I don't know if there are actually 32 total.

May be some sort of relegation type scenario to fill out the field of 32 like soccer does. The simple fact is that there are 20 or so programs with the willingness to devote the resources to play at the top of CFB. 4 - 8 team divisions allows 9 games against the top level teams and 3 against those who have been relegated - I don't know if interest doesn't suffer if you have the likes of Georgia Tech and Mississippi State ONLY playing one another for a title.

It is easier logistically to regulate 32 teams with similar resources and goals than it is 134 with drastic differences in both. May prove impossible legally to regulate the 32 in any meaningful way because they'd have to agree to be regulated which may be collusion to prevent competition but its what needs to happen. Money has turned it into the NFL. Either that or go back to polls picking champions an having multiple champions. The current system is not only not sustainable interest is going to wane soon when the Boise States and SMUs of the world realize they are in exactly the same situation they have always been in with the exception of getting their asses beat in a higher profile bowl game.


Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:12 am to
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If the smaller schools can’t come up with enough dough to meet the cap, then tough tittie and they will lose players bc of it.



They are going to anyway. When money is all that matters the haves have a decisive competitive advantage over the have nots in any situation.


Serious question, without SEC money would Vandy and Mississippi State and similarly situated ADs field a football team? Is Vandy's football program self sustaining without SEC money? I would bet it is not. I know Vandy has vast financial resources unrelated to athletics and athletics are, apparently, a big draw for student interest at a University....but what bang for the buck do they get when they are no longer a SEC school?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11533 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:19 am to
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I'd go back to the Shula years if it meant the rest of college football went back in terms of conferences and the BCS.

It was honestly more enjoyable.



Seriously how many sponsors are going to pony up enough money to pay for a bowl game against 2 teams with 1/8th of the rosters opting out and 70% of fans completely disconnected? It is not sustainable from my POV. I know TV ratings and money is flowing like water currently but the 12 game playoff is a temporary fix....pretty soon outside of about 20 or so programs everyone else is going to come to realize you can expand the playoff field to 134 teams and there are only going to be about 20 with the resources and willingness to win it all. The money is outrageous but the damage being done to a cultural institution may prove devastating to that institution. Coupled with football being scrutinized for safety concerns, being male only and costing a pile of money at the youth level compared to soccer and baseball it wouldn't be shocking to see CFB return to what it was in the 70's in 20-30 years. ...basically a regional game
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:22 am to
Even if you allow more teams in. You still have teams ranked outside the top 10 getting byes while teams in the top ten play opening week some of which had to play in their conference championship game. The whole things needs to be blown up and redone.
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