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re: A question about Texas A&M Offense.

Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:54 pm to
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Why is that? The defenses are figuring out what they are doing and making adjustments.


Are they? You might want to rewatch the 4th quarter of the A&M/Alabama game. There was a two play TD drive in there that had nothing to do with the system. One play was a wheel route. The other play was a corner route. Each time the receiver beat man coverage and the deep safety wasn't there to help. Tell me exactly what is so earth shattering about that...
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:55 pm to
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The numbers don't lie. The defense figures you out in the second half.


If you say this enough, the less true it makes it.
Posted by AggieJohn06
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2011
457 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:59 pm to
It's not a matter of figuring out how to slow down Johnny, it's a matter of figuring out how to slow down the entire offense next season. We will have a full off season to install a much more balanced rushing/passing attack that doesn't utilize as many designed QB runs. FTR, by balanced I am including the dink and dunk passes within three yards of the LOS to our RB's, which is nothing more than an extension of the run game.

Ideally Johnny's total offensive numbers stay fairly close with a reduction of rushing yards and an increase in passing. He will still scramble and extend plays with his WTF is he doing abilities. So don't count on a just a shitload of sacks with a new look o-line, Johnny will still escape a lot of TFL's.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:59 pm to
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Are they? You might want to rewatch the 4th quarter of the A&M/Alabama game. There was a two play TD drive in there that had nothing to do with the system. One play was a wheel route. The other play was a corner route. Each time the receiver beat man coverage and the deep safety wasn't there to help. Tell me exactly what is so earth shattering about that...


Again, you scored 9 pts in the last 3 quarters of the game but that has nothing to do with defensive adjustments? Really?
Posted by t - cam
Dallas
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:05 pm to
A&M scored 20 in the first half and should have scored 17 in the second half. Two missed chip shots kept bama in the game.
Posted by skrangeo
DFW
Member since Sep 2011
553 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:07 pm to
how come people haven't figured out Lebron, Adrian Peterson, Peyton Manning, etc?


why do people act like you can watch a little film and figure someone out?


JFF is a straight up baller. his passing precision just got better and better as the season went on. he's going to pick people apart next season like a surgeon.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:10 pm to
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Again, you scored 9 pts in the last 3 quarters of the game but that has nothing to do with defensive adjustments? Really?



We scored 29 the whole game... the first quarter doesn't count? And what happened in the 4th quarter when Alabama gave up 9 points? Including a chip shot field goal? Honestly you should have given up 13. Doesn't that prove your halftime adjustments didn't even make it more than 15 minutes? Do you know how things work?

I would advise you to go look up the drive chart, or rewatch that game. Either way, you're a moron.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:12 pm to
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but we have JFF -Tbirdspur2010


The frick you mention my name for?
Posted by t - cam
Dallas
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:12 pm to
Aggies punted twice all day. Great adjustments!!!
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:13 pm to
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Aggies punted twice all day. Great adjustments!!!


And one was because of the stupidest pass interference Birmingham ref hack job I've ever seen.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:22 pm to
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We scored 29 the whole game... the first quarter doesn't count?


Sigh... look at the original post. It was about adjustments by the defense against Bama, LSU and UF. Please keep up.

You can't have it both ways. Bama defensive had missed plays too so you can't just cherry pick the plays you like and ignore the ones you don't.

I bet the Texas fans got frustrated while debating you too. It's like talking to a dunder head but worse.

Again. A&M scored 20 of it's 29 pts in the first quarter. It was similar in the LSU and UF games too. A&M is a good team but the SEC defenses aren't going to sit back and do nothing.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:25 pm to
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You can't have it both ways. Bama defensive had missed plays too so you can't just cherry pick the plays you like and ignore the ones you don't


You came out in the second half, and made the A&M team punt twice in a row, the only time it did so all game. One of those times was because of the most bull shite offensive pass interference call ever. You made very very very minor adjustments, and if you are using that as the standard, that A&M won't punt whatsoever except at the beginning of the third quarter, then A&M will never lose to Alabama. Ever.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:27 pm to
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Again. A&M scored 20 of it's 29 pts in the first quarter.


Again. A&M scored 9 of its 29 points in the 4th quarter. It also missed a chip shot field goal in the 4th. Your adjustments lasted one, MAYBE two drives in the third quarter, and after that you couldn't keep up and lost. Deal with it.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:32 pm to
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You made very very very minor adjustments,


Your helment to helment against Lacey not called..... Shall we go on? Now you are complaining about calls? Very sad.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:37 pm to
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Your helment to helment against Lacey not called..... Shall we go on? Now you are complaining about calls? Very sad.


What don't you get about us scoring 9 points in the 4th? Where did your adjustments go?
Posted by t - cam
Dallas
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:39 pm to
Nothing to do with the Aggie offense.
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2506 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:48 pm to
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.there are only about 3-4 defenses with the talent to even match up right now so it really doesn't matter if the SEC "figures" you out.


Thank you for seeing this. I have no doubt that there will be some drop in the quality of our OL. However, there will also be a greater understanding of the complete offense by our own players, Johnny included. LSU didn't have any info on Johnny that every other SEC team, sans UF, didn't also have. What they did have was the personnel capable of implementing a plan that could seriously slow our offense. But let's be honest, there were several unforced turnovers on our part and a horrible kicking game that played a huge part in our loss. Obviously, LSU played better that day, but any honest Tiger knows that things could have easily gone the other direction.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
21060 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:53 pm to
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I think that even though Johnny Football is an excellent athete he will not have the same success next year unless A&M makes some major changes to confuse the defense again.


I said that this past weekend. Certainly congrats on his Heisman but I also think the defenses around the league that have the resources to make adjustments do so and curb his productivity next year unless someone else rises to take some of the pressure off. He needs a good rushing support from his running backs.
Posted by khaos288
Member since Sep 2011
267 posts
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:30 pm to
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How old are you? The facts are plane to see unless you are so blinded by your homer glasses. It was a good play but to say your team waits until the 4th quarter to start playing again and you save that play until you really need it is just stupid. No player is perfect and makes no mistakes not even Johnny Football. Surely you don't want to compare Texas A&M and Bama the last 3 years. Don't get your panties in such a wad. You have a good team but just don't think that you will dominate in this league based on what you did this year. Your staff will need to make adjustments to confuse the defense much like the defense will respond.


What fact? The fact your db DID not make a play? Yes. That is a fact.

And, I'm still not sure you're understanding. A non-conservative gameplan when down in the fourth quarter/needing to stretch the lead is pretty standard. Go back and look at our offensive play calls. When you "shut us down" for 1.5 quarters it's because we started playing conservatively and leaning on our defense that was playing out of their minds. Once they finally let Bama within striking distance, we score another touchdown on two ballsy plays.

Look at the dangerous plays we made while down to LSU. Two of them ended up in turnovers, and one late touchdown. We lost by 5. That team wasn't as good as the team that rolled into tuscaloosa obviously. Because Johnny progressed as a passer like any freshman would.

So you can go out and contain Johnnys running next year. Hell you might even see him have bad running games, but he's going to be a better passer and that whole chapter of the play book will open.

I would bet money the offensive production is within 10% of what it was this year, and am excited play all those shite talking teams again next year.

I'm not one of those people that think Texas A&M has somehow become the end all be all over night, but I am certainly not worried about our offense getting "figured out" next year.
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