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re: A Good Read on the Impending Death of Mid-Major College Football

Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
976 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:47 pm to
Waaaay too low on that stadium cost estimate. Some of the recent stadiums with only 35-40k seats have cost well over $100m
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:51 pm to
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If you are able to develop a winning program with a real fan base then maybe you should give moving up a thought (Georgia Southern, Appy State come to mind).


Right that's the odd thing there are two programs in Boise's region that could jump up and be better than the Idaho, New Mexico level immediately that don't jump becaise there is no real incentive to do so given that they currently make good money at the FCS level (Montana and North Dakota State )
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:56 pm to
Yea, good point, probably should attempt to do something like Tulane or North Texas. Guess that will run $75-80M.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:57 pm to
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Right that's the odd thing there are two programs in Boise's region that could jump up and be better than the Idaho, New Mexico level immediately that don't jump becaise there is no real incentive to do so given that they currently make good money at the FCS level (Montana and North Dakota State )


Yep. And Georgia Southern and Appy held out for a long time. I think there is legitimate concern that you lose your loyal fanbase if you jump up from competing for titles every year and start going 4-8 and getting blasted every other game. You stop playing meaningful home games and you become just another little school.

Posted by smokehouse_83
New Mexico
Member since Jun 2013
1414 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:01 pm to
I think all colleges need to take a look at their athletic programs. I live in a small town with a small D2 college. When I knew one of the football coaches I went to a game and there were probably 100 people there. All the teams suck except the Rugby "Club" which plays for a national championship every year. I think if the college was smart it would dump all the other programs and dump the cash into the Rugby program and move up to D1 and actually make money of its athletics. All the money spent on the facilities, staff, scholarships, head coaches, AD, ect is nuts. Why cause its expected even if it runs the school into the ground?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24280 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:03 pm to
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The idea that every school that wants to play Division 1, big time college football should be allowed and subsidized to do it is one of those seemingly universally accepted beliefs that I just do not understand.
Its socialism.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:04 pm to
It's a fair concern, the one thing that might encourage the schools I mentioned to jump is how easy the transition has been for GSU and Appy, I don't think either does it but both (or at least Montana ) have stadiums that already qualify or would with slight alterations- the one real downside would be the loss of the hilariously stacked home field edge in major games late in the year - an outdoor playoff game in Montana in December vs a team from say Georgia or Texas was always funny to watch.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27837 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:02 pm to
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Also interesting that there only 6 schools that are self supporting


Would love to see a link for these "facts" calling BS and a very strange definition of "self supporting"
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