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Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:03 pm to Gladius Veritas
Bielema has sent 12 players to the NFL in the past two seasons. That's talent isn't it?
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:04 pm to roadGator
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Before I get busy at work again I'm going to look up the 4 year rolling average in recruiting for all the BCS championship teams. I bet it's top 5 on average.
Without a doubt. I saw recently that every team that had a # 1 recruiting class has Atleast played for the BCSCG for 10 years.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Yep, UF was was supposed to get destroyed by the greatest offense of all time against Okie.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:05 pm to Latarian
Sherman recruited very well -- Sumlin is recruiting measurably better. But that's not really the point. What I'm saying is you can contrast the two by looking at the 2011 and 2012 outcomes where each had similar -- not exact -- personnel.
Those outcomes advance the argument that our success was significantly attributed to Sumlin's ability.
Those outcomes advance the argument that our success was significantly attributed to Sumlin's ability.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I said you have 3 or 4 really good ones at most each year. What record breaking offenses are getting shut down other than OU (which is more due to Stoops losing all his best assistants) every once in a while?
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:06 pm to Dr RC
K State had a pretty good offense last year 
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Then you're dumb. You see it every year in bowl season. Record setting offensive big 12 teams get held to 14 points.
Except when they play the 17th ranked team in the Holiday Bowl tonight. Because that's when they score 35 in a half.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:07 pm to Latarian
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Bielema has sent 12 players to the NFL in the past two seasons. That's talent isn't it?
I think Arky made a decent hire , but he does lose to teams he shouldn't and struggles to beat good teAms. I do think he is putting together a good staff. I thought Arky fans should be worried that he had no South connections but he seems to be taking care of that.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:07 pm to Gladius Veritas
that was nowhere near one of their best offenses.
they dont even play like the majority of Big 12 teams.
they dont even play like the majority of Big 12 teams.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:07 pm to DWag215
I'm not arguing Sumlin is better than Sherm, he is, by a long shot.
I'm just saying lets see him with most of his own players and a year of film in the books for opposing teams.
Manziel is the wildcard in all this.
I'm just saying lets see him with most of his own players and a year of film in the books for opposing teams.
Manziel is the wildcard in all this.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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but he does lose to teams he shouldn't
Not really
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:10 pm to DWag215
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Except when they play the 17th ranked team in the Holiday Bowl tonight. Because that's when they score 35 in a half.
If you don't think the defenses in the SEC are better, then you clearly don't know football. If you can't tell , Bama's , LSU's , UF's , USC , and UGA have more talent on def than all of the big 12 combined, then you'll probably never see it. LSU kicked off a Bednarik winner and SEC def player of the year and was still a top 3 def.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:11 pm to Latarian
Yeah I'll go with that.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:11 pm to Rickdaddy4188
LSU, Bama, Georgia, and Florida's Ds are better than most others in the nation.
The rest of the SEC? Not that tough.
The rest of the SEC? Not that tough.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If you don't think the defenses in the SEC are better, then you clearly don't know football. If you can't tell , Bama's , LSU's , UF's , USC , and UGA have more talent on def than all of the big 12 combined, then you'll probably never see it. LSU kicked off a Bednarik winner and SEC def player of the year and was still a top 3 def.
A&M faired okay against the SEC defenses this year -- just one year removed from Big 12 play (we know the details of the LSU GAME; no need to recite them).
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:13 pm to Dr RC
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The rest of the SEC? Not that tough.
You forget about another team in the sec....in the east....on the coast....with arguably one of the best defensive players in the country....that stopped that "great offense" to only a touchdown even though it was really just a garbage td.
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:14 pm to FincAg11
wouldnt make it in sec!!! sec stackeddddd 
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:16 pm to Indfanfromcol
South Carolina is very good no doubt. I think Clemson was pretty overrated though. The ACC was so far down this year it hurts.
And it doesn't matter regardless. You are never going to play all of the best defenses in a single year.
(unless you are LSU and Bama tells the league office to make it so)
And it doesn't matter regardless. You are never going to play all of the best defenses in a single year.
(unless you are LSU and Bama tells the league office to make it so)
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 12/27/12 at 11:16 pm to Latarian
all indications is that Manziel would have performed the same way in the fall regardless of who the coach was. People forget that Sumlin had Showers as #1 leading into fall camp but Manziel simply outplayed him and won the starting job. Hard to tell if Sherman would have done the same but my bet is that he would have.
This post was edited on 12/27/12 at 11:20 pm
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