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re: 9 game SEC Schedule - 4 permanent opponents - best 2 teams in Atlanta
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:15 am to East Coast Band
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:15 am to East Coast Band
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I am in favor of a 9 game SEC schecdule
I am too. The week before the rivalry games absolutely sucks.
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:34 am to dcbl
I am in favor of a 9-game schedule, too. For example, it is absurd that 15 years will pass between Vandy's visits to Baton Rouge (2009, 2024).
I think this may eventually happen, but it won't be because of fan complaints. It will be if/when CBS and ESPN demand it during negotiations for new TV contracts: i.e., "if you want more money, give us a better supply of games every week."
I think this may eventually happen, but it won't be because of fan complaints. It will be if/when CBS and ESPN demand it during negotiations for new TV contracts: i.e., "if you want more money, give us a better supply of games every week."
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:37 am to dcbl
So who will be the first school to bitch because so and so had 4 home sec games and the other school that goes to ATL had 5?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:55 am to NYCAuburn
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So who will be the first school to bitch because so and so had 4 home sec games and the other school that goes to ATL had 5?
I get this, but it would be matter more if it weren't already happening in other Power 5 conferences.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:58 am to dcbl
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9 game SEC Schedule
i don't like the idea of some teams having advantageous schedules year to year with one more home sec game. I know it evens out but I think an 8 game conf schedule is enough.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:17 am to dcbl
No. The ninth game would be home and home. As a season ticket holder I want the extra home game every year thaat I get a ticket for.
We already have 1 neutral site game every year.
We already have 1 neutral site game every year.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:43 pm to phil4bama
quote:College football wasn't broken back in the '90s, but the powers that be decided to 'fix' it anyway.
We should get back to the heart of what created these leagues in the first place: similar schools and fanbases in distinct regions of the country that share their culture and way of life. Let the money work itself out.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:30 pm to Weagle25
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Gives them a bye week. Provides a game that fans without as much money can go to.
It's better than a bye to be honest. It gives starters and other important role players a chance to rest if they need to and gives important reps to players without much experience. Depth is developed during these games. Offenses and defenses can experiment with various tweaks and lineups and coaches can evaluate player development in a live game.
Also, the assumption that all FCS schools are less than P5 or even G5 etc. is a pretty big one. There are some pretty terrible D1 P5 schools that are frankly far worse than many FCS and smaller conference teams. ADs know this and they can schedule a quality opponent who happens to be FCS or a terrible opponent who happens to be P5.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:33 pm to TDFreak
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Keep it at 8, but eliminate the permanent rivalries.
And for the teams who MUST HAVE their permanent rivalries that are screwing up scheduling currently (UA/UT, AU/UGA): You can keep your games...they will just be considered "non-conference" and not factored in your SEC standing with the option to swap a win out with another cross-division loss every two years.
Clear as mud.
This would benefit Tennessee enormously and to be frank even the playing field in the SECE. UGA and UF don't have a near auto-conference loss but we do.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 4:38 pm to TDFreak
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TDFreak
9 game SEC Schedule - 4 permanent opponents - best 2 teams in Atlanta
Keep it at 8, but eliminate the permanent rivalries.
And for the teams who MUST HAVE their permanent rivalries that are screwing up scheduling currently (UA/UT, AU/UGA): You can keep your games...they will just be considered "non-conference" and not factored in your SEC standing with the option to swap a win out with another cross-division loss every two years.
Clear as mud.
considered non-conf.? HELL NO!
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:02 pm to thelawnwranglers
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elawnwranglers
9 game SEC Schedule - 4 permanent opponents - best 2 teams in Atlanta
Why not let the teams that have to have a perm rival have it, and rotate rest
Let's take a "random team" compared to Georgia
non-perm: Ala. (H)/Ark. (A)
perm: Aub./Ala. (H)
non-perm: Aub. (H)/LSU (A)
perm: Aub./Ark. (A)
non-perm: Ole Miss. (H)/MSU (A)
perm: Aub./LSU (H)
non-perm: TA&M (H)/Ala. (A)
perm: Aub./Ole Miss. (A)
non-perm: Ark. (H)/Aub. (A)
perm: Aub./MSU (H)
non-perm: LSU (H)/Ole Miss. (A)
perm: Aub./TA&M (A)
non-perm: MSU (H)/TA&M (A)
perm: Aub./Ala. (A)
non-perm: Ala. (H)/Ark. (A)
perm: Aub./Ark. (H)
non-perm: Aub. (H)/LSU (A)
perm: Aub./LSU (A)
non-perm: Ole Miss. (H)/MSU (A)
perm: Aub./Ole Miss. (H)
non-perm: TA&M (H)/Ala. (A)
perm: Aub./MSU (A)
non-perm: Ark. (H)/Aub. (A)
perm: Aub./TA&M (H)
In 12 years:
[b]UGA[/b]
Aub. (H) - 6X
Aub. (A) - 6X
everybody else (H) - 1X
everybody else (A) - 1X
[b]"random team"[/b]
Ala. (A) - 2
Ala. (H) - 2
Ark. (A) - 2
Ark. (H) - 2
Aub. (A) - 2
Aub. (H) - 2
LSU (A) - 2
LSU (H) - 1
MSU (A) - 2
MSU (H) - 1
Ole Miss. (A) - 1
Ole Miss. (H) - 2
TA&M (A) - 1
TA&M (H) - 2
So, while UGA takes 12 years to do H/A with everybody, "random team" takes 14 years to do H/A with everybody TWICE.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:05 pm to bamawriter
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bamawriter
9 game SEC Schedule - 4 permanent opponents - best 2 teams in Atlanta
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You can keep your games...they will just be considered "non-conference" and not factored in your SEC standing
Why? Just do what the Big 10 and Pac 12 have done and lock in a couple of significant cross-division rivalries and rotate the rest. It's not that hard.
Got an example of that? To me, the "3/4" perm & rotate the rest SUCKS because there's no way to compare schools if they don't share common opponents (like divisions/pods DO).
Posted on 5/15/17 at 5:06 pm to NYCAuburn
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NYCAuburn
9 game SEC Schedule - 4 permanent opponents - best 2 teams in Atlanta
So who will be the first school to bitch because so and so had 4 home sec games and the other school that goes to ATL had 5?
That complaint will happen 1st year of 9 conf. games (no matter about the SECCG).
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:15 pm to phil4bama
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After seeing it in action, I have become vehemently opposed to the 4 mega conference structure UNLESS it incorporates the pod system and the conference is really just a loose affiliation of the 4 pods. Otherwise, it gets too geographically diverse and loses its identity. Missouri is already a bad fit culturally and aTm was a bit of a stretch. I don't want us to become some gargantuan league that includes WVU, Missouri, OU and God knows what else that loses the culture and unique identity of the the SEC as southern football.
All the conferences are struggling with this reality already. The SEC has outlier Missouri, the B1G has Nebraska and Maryland and Rutgers, the ACC has Louisville, Notre Dame, Pitt, Syracuse. The PAC has the Arizona schools and Utah and Colorado. None of these additions have really "fit" into the culture and personality of their conference. There's nothing wrong with them, it's just trying to put a square peg in a round hole in the name of money.
We should get back to the heart of what created these leagues in the first place: similar schools and fanbases in distinct regions of the country that share their culture and way of life. Let the money work itself out. And following that logic, any expansion should come from Florida up through Virginia but no further west than Arkansas. That list should include Clemson and FSU. Sorry, UF and USC, but that's the reality of the situation. They fit better than OU and Okie Lite.
I agree with most of this. I think the last expansion was a mistake and that we are losing both cultural fit and geographic proximity. I really think we had it about perfect with our twelve team SEC and the SECCG. I doubt it can be undone, but I really don't want to see us compound the mistake with another expansion.
And as for the original point of the post, I would be in favor of a 9 game SEC schedule. I'd also be okay with an option to let schools keep or get rid of permanent rivals as they see fit. To me the Auburn-Georgia game is an integral part of the football season, but if other schools don't care for their perm rivals then I'd be okay with them getting rid of them and getting to rotate through more often.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:58 pm to GumBro Jackson
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GumBro Jackson
9 game SEC Schedule - 4 permanent opponents - best 2 teams in Atlanta
I'd also be okay with an option to let schools keep or get rid of permanent rivals as they see fit. To me the Auburn-Georgia game is an integral part of the football season, but if other schools don't care for their perm rivals then I'd be okay with them getting rid of them and getting to rotate through more often.
As I posted above, there is NO WAY to have some schools with perm rivals & others not. Scheduling won't allow it. &, also stated above, I'm sure as Hell NOT going to count it as a non-conf. game!
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:41 pm to dcbl
It would never happen, due to the ACC rivalries, but I say a 10 game schedule. Your 6 in division, plus two permanent. You would have a H&H with everyone, every 9 years I believe.
Auburn gets Florida back, Arkansas gets UT back. Please give us someone other than UK this time.
Auburn gets Florida back, Arkansas gets UT back. Please give us someone other than UK this time.
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:50 pm to Tiger Live2
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Tiger Live2
9 game SEC Schedule - 4 permanent opponents - best 2 teams in Atlanta
It would never happen, due to the ACC rivalries, but I say a 10 game schedule. Your 6 in division, plus two permanent. You would have a H&H with everyone, every 9 years I believe.
You mean a 10 OVERALL game season? You're right because of those ACC rivalries leave 1 game open for Ga./Fl./SC/Kentucky.
Or do you mean a 10 game SEC conf. season? If this, what's your plan (6 div., 2 perm., 2 ________)?
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:05 pm to southernboisb
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Or do you mean a 10 game SEC conf. season? If this, what's your plan (6 div., 2 perm., 2 ________)
Yes, sorry for not making it clearer.
Also, to be clear, I'm not giving those schools crap for certainly not being in favor of it. Guarantees you never a see a good team outside the SEC or ACC, during the regular season.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 9:06 pm
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