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re: 7 SEC players projected as 1st rounders in 2013 NFL Draft

Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:49 pm to
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You must have missed the final 9 games of the 2010 season.


this
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:51 pm to
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You must have missed the final 9 games of the 2010 season.



Do you guys really think Arky's prolific passing attack under Petrino had nothing to do with Davis' success?

Seriously if Davis was SC's starting RB do you think his stats would even approach what he has done at Arky?
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:53 pm to
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Seriously if Davis was SC's starting RB do you think his stats would even approach what he has done at Arky?


sure...cause he'd be getting 50+ more touches than he gets now.

You act like Latt is Bo and Davis is Keiland Willams
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 12:54 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:54 pm to
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sure...cause he's getting 50+ more touches than he gets now.


But without the linemen and passing attack of Arky that teams game plan around.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:54 pm to
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Davis came off an injury and the death of his father in his freshman campaign...just fyi


He had the benefit of Fall workouts, playing time in 12 games freshman year, bowl workouts, Spring training before his sophomore campaign. Huge learning process right there.

BTW I do not feel Knile takes a back seat to Lattimore. I will say again it would have been really fun to see an always healthy Davis play.
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 12:58 pm
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:56 pm to
imho the two are quite comparable in terms of talent.

Davis is more explosive and Lattimore is more of a bellcow who can take a beating.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 12:56 pm to
Lets just line em up and let them run for the title of top back
Posted by Waffle House
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:00 pm to
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Including another GRINDER (who would be our 3rd in a row)


One 1st Rounder = 1 SEC West win.
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:03 pm to
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Do you guys really think Arky's prolific passing attack under Petrino had nothing to do with Davis' success?

Seriously if Davis was SC's starting RB do you think his stats would even approach what he has done at Arky?


We don't know, and playing the hypothetical game is a ridiculous approach and doesn't accomplish anything. I can play it, too!

What if Knile didn't take half a season to learn that he needs to be patient for holes to open up? If he put similar numbers for the first half of the season as he did the second half he would have ran for 2000 yards and 20+ TDs. Remember that one guy named Darren McFadden? Knile's numbers would have crushed his in both of his Heisman-worthy seasons. Knile actually had his best games in the half of the season where he played the best overall defenses.

If Knile performed the same way all season in 2010, would there even be talk that Knile and Marcus are on even planes?

You see? Another silly hypothetical.

I go off of actual results, because that's all we really have. Those results show that, when healthy, Knile was a more successful rusher than Marcus, and did so against better defenses. That is a fact. You can try to spin it all you want, but it is simply you trying to spin it. Also, to allude to Knile's success coming from our passing attack is not only an insult to Knile and his incredible work ethic, but also to the coaches and defenses he played against that were preparing to play against him. You obviously didn't watch the Sugar Bowl or you would have seen that they talked about Knile more than any other Arkansas player before the game, even Mallett. His recent success was well known, so don't try to act like it was some lucky fluke that he did well.
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:10 pm to
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Those results show that, when healthy, Knile was a more successful rusher than Marcus, and did so against better defenses. That is a fact


Lattimore:

2011:

UGA: 6.5
Vandy: 3.9
Auburn: 3.9
Kentucky: 4.6
Miss St.: 2.3

avg: 4.24 (injured in Miss St. game)

2010:

UGA: 4.9
Auburn: 2.4
Bama: 4.0
Kentucky: 5.3
Tenn: 6.3
Arky: 2.7
Florida: 5.3
Auburn: 5.3

avg: 4.5


Davis:

2011:

DNP

2010:

UGA: -2.3

Bama: 7.0

Auburn: 6.5

Ole Miss: 8

Vandy: 4.3

South Carolina: 5

Miss St.: 6.2

LSU: 5.1

avg: 5

2009:

UGA: DNP

Bama: 3

Auburn: 4.3

Florida: 0

Ole Miss: 3

South Carolina: 5

Miss St.: 1

LSU: 3

avg. 2.8
Posted by bona fide
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:15 pm to
You guys still arguing over second best?



Posted by bpfergu
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:18 pm to
Arbitrarily focusing on just SEC games? check.
Arbitrarily alluding to ypg as the ultimate decider in who is better? check.
Comparing seasons where one guy was the feature back and the other was 3rd/4th string? check.

They realistically have one season to viably compare to each other, and that was 2010. Both played the entire season, and both were feature backs (well in regards to Knile he was for a good portion of the season, but it's the best we got).
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:22 pm to
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Arbitrarily focusing on just SEC games? check.
Arbitrarily alluding to ypg as the ultimate decider in who is better? check.


that was asked by your fellow Arky fans. I didn't pick those categories.


This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 1:23 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35665 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:22 pm to
Fluker is a marginal 1st round prospect just by the fact he plays RT. The perception is he has slow feet but DJ actually acquitted himself well in pass pro this year. Not saying he has 1st round feet but he is better in that department than people give him credit for.
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:23 pm to
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Fluker is a marginal 1st round prospect just by the fact he plays RT.


this is a great point.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6432 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:23 pm to
That was a horrible mock draft. Jarvis Jones way overrated. Mingo will be the 1st defensive player taken from the SEC. Montgomery and Lemonier are too small for DE and are not fluid enough athletes to excel at OLB like Mingo.

Fluker and Warmack both will be drafted before Barret Jones, unless he dominates at C this year. Cyrus if draft eligible would be taken 1st of the 4. This is a ridiculous talented line.

LSU could have a ridiculous draft. One of the best all time. Even with Montgomery and Mathieu not going as high. Simon, Reid, and Logan will go higher than projected.

This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 1:26 pm
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:24 pm to



(look at AJ just sitting back there like, bitch you see it)
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 1:25 pm
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:25 pm to
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Jarvis Jones way overrated.


I'm sorry what? You realize 3-4 OLB are highly valued right?

quote:

Montgomery and Lemonier are too small for DE and are not fluid enough athletes to excel at OLB like Mingo.


wrong

quote:

Warmack both will be drafted before Barret Jones




Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:27 pm to
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Fluker is a marginal 1st round prospect just by the fact he plays RT.


true but he will wow people in the underwear olympics. he's a very very large man.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 1:28 pm to
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true but he will wow people in the underwear olympics. he's a very very large man.


Keep that type of shite on BOL
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