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re: 41% graduation rate, lowest in the nation. An embarrassment to the SEC
Posted on 7/29/24 at 6:10 pm to LSUdude247
Posted on 7/29/24 at 6:10 pm to LSUdude247
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The graph factors out players who leave for draft and players who enter the portal
No it doesn't.
It tracks the players for 8 years after being signed to see if they graduate. If a player graduates within 8 years from any college, they count toward the GSR
It doesn't just "factor them out" (as in not count them as being part of the team).
As an example from my time at UGA, Champ Bailey was an excellent student. My wife worked with him on some projects in Abnormal Psychology (not an easy class) and he was very smart.
But he didn't graduate from UGA within 8 years of coming on campus. he was in good standing when he graduated, but he was busy having a hall of fame NFL career. Not sure if he ever bothered to finish his degree, but he absolutely could have if he wanted to. VERY smart player.
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 6:13 pm to 3down10
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The reason Alabama has such a high rate at Alabama is because Saban forced them to go to class etc. It was literally someone's job to go around to every class a player had to make sure they were in their class. Alabama also provides them with any assistance they need etc.
Every college has this.
The issue is recruiting guys who both WANT to do well in school and who are ABLE to do well in school.
Richt wasn't caring about that at the end of his UGA stay. He was just recruiting talent and took risks. Those classes are what is measured by the OP.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 7:16 pm to Naked Bootleg
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be fair and admittedly without researching, UGA probably had more guys leaving early for the draft than many other teams.
That’s no excuse! Texas, Alabama, LSU have had tons of kids leave early the last 8 years for the pros. Bama is sitting over 80%, and you tell me UGA has more players going pro at that significant rate more than Bama? Doubt it!
Also you have a lot of players that just take general studies courses like Stetson Bennett and don’t graduate after 6 years of college.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 7:49 pm to BigDickRick16
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That’s no excuse! Texas, Alabama, LSU have had tons of kids leave early the last 8 years for the pros. Bama is sitting over 80%, and
We damn sure didnt have that problem with Richt in that era. You do realize you are trashing Richt, right?
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:35 pm to DawginSC
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It's literally what the GSR measures. It measures classes recruited from 8-13 years prior to the release.
And while Kirby didn't "make" them graduate, he also didn't recruit the players unable to graduate.
And let's be honest here, all schools (including UGA) give players a ridiculous amount of academic assistance resources to help them get a degree. The biggest factors that contribute to a player being able to gradueate are:
1 - Do they want to?
2 - Are they capable?
Both of those are judgement calls in the recruiting process.
As for your link:
"The four-year average of graduation rates tracked the freshman classes which enrolled between 2003 and 2006.:
Yes, when Richt first came to UGA he did target good students. His last 5 years he took way more risks with players he targeted, letting talent outweigh things like academics and discipline. The 2013 and 2015 classes in particular had a LOT of players who didn't finish their careers at UGA. I wouldn't be shocked if many of them left for academic reasons and didn't end up getting a degree.
Do you remember Shaq Wiggins? Tramel Terry? AJ Turman? Shaun McGhee? Chauncey Rivers? Pat Allen? Jacob Park? Detric Bing-Dukes? Shaquille Fluker? Rico McGraw? Chauncey Rivers? Reggie Wilkerson? Tray Matthews? All of these guys were 4-star+ talents that Richt took risks on who ended up somewhere other than UGA either for discipline or academic reasons in his last 3 full classes (2013-2015)
Heck you may remember guys like Johnathan Abram who had to go to community college after failing academically at UGA. Abram ended up at Mississippi State. No idea if he graduated or not, but if he didn't he counted against UGA's GSR. Ended up in the NFL. Brendan Langley had similar issues but made it to the NFL after leaving UGA for Lamar. Those were talented guys that did pan out, but couldn't cut the academics at UGA. They shouldn't have been recruited to begin with.
I'm not reading all that.
You are a piece of shite blaming a former coach who had the highest graduation rate in the SEC.
Go frick yourself.
Georgia football has top graduation rate in SEC
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:52 pm to Naked Bootleg
Wut is akkadimmik talk doin on dis here forem?
Nexxt will be a-braggin about tooth count.
Nexxt will be a-braggin about tooth count.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:22 pm to DawginSC
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No it doesn't
But it does
It goes off the NCAAs Graduation Success Rate which excludes players who enter the portal and players who leave for the NFL early
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:22 pm to 3down10
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You are a piece of shite blaming a former coach who had the highest graduation rate in the SEC.
Just because something was a certain way doesnt mean it remains that way. The large 2013 class was horried on and off the field, and that contributes to the numbers. The quality of his teams and his NFL draft numbers also took hits towards the end of his career.
You are always so angry, so those anger mgmt classes you took need to be repeated.
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