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re: 2015 UT vs Uf will be like 1995 UT vs Bama

Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:26 am to
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:26 am to
God, the price of suicide counseling is going to double in the state of TN after the Gators extend the streak to 11 games.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:29 am to
I've actually ran the numbers and according to Rivals rankings Florida has only 1 more 4* on their roster than TN right now and the exact same number of 5*.

Florida has about 10 less scholarship players than TN that were recruited so the depth for UF is a bit worse but your 4* % per player is better.

But overall the talent is about as even as it can get.

But I will say that UF has a lot more upperclassmen 4 and 5* then TN because about 80% of ours are SOph's or Freshman.

So this idea that TN is some way more talented team tahn UF is probably not true.

The reasons I feel pretty good about the game is I like that we are in year 3 of our systems while UF will only be in game 3. UF has changed their O so much over the past 5 years that there is no way they'll be gelled by then. They aren't settled at QB and we are which helps our case as well.

Pretty much besides QB and comfort in the system I'd call this game a wash. UF gets a bit of help being at home but I also think that helps TN so we get away from the pressre cooker of NEyland in this streak breaking situation.

Should be a fun game but I think our DL vs your OL helps us secure the W pretty comfortably due to the QB issues.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:43 am to
quote:

UF gets a bit of help being at home but I also think that helps TN so we get away from the pressre cooker of NEyland in this streak breaking situation.


So much quality in this post is ruined by this one sentence. Seriously, you've shown that you are one of the Vol fans on here who has a brain and common sense: Do you really think the game being played in the Swamp is a positive for Tennessee? I have thought about this for a while, and I simply cannot fathom how anybody could spin this game being played in the Swamp as an advantage for Tennessee. I don't buy the pressure from the home crowd garbage, that really sounds ridiculous. It simply makes no sense to me.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 10:44 am
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:55 am to
I don't think it is an ADVANTAGE for TN over UF.

I just think it isn't the typical home away difference due to how our last two games in Knoxville have gone vs. you all.

Both, if you were there, you could cut the tension with a knife and in the second halves of both games the fans I felt did just as much harm as good to the home team.

I can't explain it and it may be idiotic but I swear I felt it.


Anyway overall the home field is still an advantage for UF for sure, but it all depends on if you take care of UK the week before.

IF somehow you drop that one I could see fans dreading possibly seeing the streak end to TN and it be pretty easy to silence the crowd.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 11:00 am
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:02 am to
I don't think Kentucky is a threat personally. I think last year was an outlier. The team looked past UK and was looking forward to the Bama game the following week. I think this is the most balanced the two teams have been in terms of talent, but if Tennessee fans really think that Florida is going to be worse this year than they were last year, you have another thing coming. I think Florida is going to be better in 2015 than they were in 2014, and have better coaching to go along with improved quarterback play and another year of experience for one of the best defensive units in the country. Getting a win against Florida is not going to be "easy" for anybody because of our defense, but with even slightly improved play on the offensive side of the ball, Florida can be a dangerous team and win8 or 9 games this year. (I personally predicted Florida to go 8-4, 4-4 in the SEC)
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:13 am to
Yea as much as I want to believe that TN beating UF will be easy this year I can't.

The talent is there, I agree that you all could have a very solid 8-4 type season as well. The only teams you play with more talent then UF are UGA, LSU, Ole Miss and FSU. TN is right there about equal at this point.

The good news for TN is I think it is good we get you early. Your OL and QB situations seem to me like they will take some time to figure out. Add to that equation that it looks like we have an elite DL I think we can likely exploit that one weakness on your team.

Now what can our O do against your D is the big question. I like that DObbs hasn't faced UF before and I think his mobility will really help. But once again we need to be able to come out line up and be able to run the ball against you all and I am still worried that will be very tough with our OL vs your DL.

Hopefully for us having Dobbs and actually being able to run our offense correctly for the first time in 3 years versus yall will help us be able to get the run game going somewhat.

I had convinced myself listening to the chatter on the Vol boards that this one would be a couple TD win for TN but now I think I am back down to the 20-14 type score for the winner.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 11:14 am
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:26 am to
At home, Tennessee gave up about 307 yards per game.

On the road, Tennessee gave up about 432 yards per game.

Josh Dobbs had a 140 QB rating at home, and 6 TD to 2 INT last year. On the road he had a 118 QB rating with 3 TD and 4 INT.

You can find a million more stats like this.

The overwhelming statistical evidence, is that Tennessee is not as good a team on the road. It's been that way for a while.

To think UT has any kind of advantage play @ UF is laughable.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 11:27 am
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 11:33 am to
YOu aren't hearing me. I am saying in the current landscape of the streak that playing UF at home for TN isn't an advantage. So while for UF itself playing at home probably helps them, it doesn't hurt TN that much since we play so tight at home in this game only.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 12:45 pm to
So you're saying, UT plays so badly against UF on the average, that playing UF in BHG isn't an issue? Because UT can't possibly play any worse against UF than they do at home?

OK, I guess I can accept that.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 3:35 pm to
Yes pretty much and also that us playing at home in this series right now is the one matchup where playing at home is just as bad as playing away due to the home crowd nerves and pressure to win.

Posted by CJM
Member since Jan 2015
3210 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:40 am to
Solid analysis ITT.
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