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re: 2012 Coaches Rankings per CFN

Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:42 am to
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:42 am to
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He just doesn't have the offensive mind that Petrino has, which is necessary to compete with teams that have bigger, more athletic players.


Oklahoma St says hi.

2001 - 87th in ppg
2002 - 13th in ppg
2003 - 11th in ppg
2004 - 17th in ppg

Miles also had the same record against Oklahoma during his time at OK. St as Petrino has against LSU in the same amount of time.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:43 am to
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So petrino gets extra points cause its arkansas?


if he was any good he'd be stealing recruits from North Louisiana and East Texas. i can't imagine Petrino has much of a living room presence when he speaks to parents. I heard he came off as a d-bag during his LSU interview......thats why Skip told him to GTFO
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:43 am to

I'm not seeing many understanding what the point of the column/rankings are here.
Posted by bpfergu
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:45 am to
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So petrino gets extra points cause its arkansas?


I think recruiting advantages/disadvantages should definitely be considered when analyzing a coach and his program.

Yeah, the coach definitely plays a part in recruiting, but it goes without saying that more recruits end up staying in-state than compared to going out of state.

For example, taking a quick look at LSU's recruiting classes from the last few years shows that a majority of the class is from the state of Louisiana, with many of those players being 4 stars and above. They had offers from all over the nation, but they stayed home. Unfortunately Arkansas doesn't have this luxury so we have to go out and "steal" recruits from other states.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:45 am to
So petrino gets extra points cause its arkansas?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:46 am to
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I'm not seeing many understanding what the point of the column/rankings are here.


it doesn't matter. anything with BP at #2 is wrong.

unless its a list of most butthurt
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:48 am to
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unless its a list of most butthurt


Even that list with Petrino at #2 would be wrong. Everyone knows he would easily top the list.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:53 am to
Another SEC coaches rankings list with Petrino at #2 - LINK
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:54 am to
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Oklahoma St says hi.

2001 - 87th in ppg
2002 - 13th in ppg
2003 - 11th in ppg
2004 - 17th in ppg

Miles also had the same record against Oklahoma during his time at OK. St as Petrino has against LSU in the same amount of time.


I could coach an offense in the Big 12 and be in the top 20 in the nation on offense. They don't play defense.

Also, I just looked at his schedule over those 4 years. Do you know how many ranked teams he beat over that 4 year period? 3. Color me unimpressed.

Like I already said, Petrino is in a much more difficult location in a much more difficult conference with an exponentially more difficult schedule, and all of this in an area with a poor recruiting base. Oh, and if you are trying to compare his success at Arkansas to Miles at Oklahoma State, I hope you realize that the best Miles could do over that time period was 9-4 season with a loss in the Cotton Bowl.
Posted by HogBoxer
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 10:59 am to
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So petrino gets extra points cause its arkansas?


It's funny that you lsu fans always say how terrible Arkansas is and we could absolutely never win anything worth mentioning yet Petrino had us in the top 5 in the country last year. So, to answer your question by most of your fans own admission YES he gets extra points for winning at Arkansas.
This post was edited on 4/4/12 at 11:00 am
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:03 am to
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yet Petrino had us in the top 5 in the country last year


yea...that was a fluke. as was proved a week later in Baton Rouge
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:04 am to

Can we call 9-6 a fluke?

TIA
Posted by HogBoxer
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:06 am to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19298 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:07 am to
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Like I already said, Petrino is in a much more difficult location in a much more difficult conference with an exponentially more difficult schedule, and all of this in an area with a poor recruiting base.


It's not like Oklahoma St. had prime recruits to choose from. in 2002 there were 12 recruits in oklahoma with 2 stars or more. 35 in 2003 and 24 in 2004. And the vast majority of those recruits were all 2 stars. And Oklahoma St. had to compete with Oklahoma and Texas for those recruits.

In 2008 Arkansas had 31 2* or higher, 27 in 2009, 29 in 2010, and 35 in 2011.

Now if you want to break it down by 3* or higher Arkansas had 43 from 08-11. While Oklahoma had 29 from 02-04 (there is no 01 data but I think it's safe to say there were fewer than 14 3* recruits)

Which state has a poorer recruiting base?

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Like I already said, Petrino is in a much more difficult location in a much more difficult conference with an exponentially more difficult schedule


And the 2001-2004 Big 12 was pretty good.
This post was edited on 4/4/12 at 11:11 am
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:07 am to
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Can we call 9-6 a fluke? 

Yes because it was proven wrong in New Orleans a few weeks later.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:07 am to
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Can we call 9-6 a fluke?


no. that was determined on the field.

stop living off other teams success....y'all are sounding like Ole Miss fans
Posted by HogBoxer
Member since May 2011
857 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:07 am to
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Can we call 9-6 a fluke?


9-6 was not a fluke b/c they were a two loss national champion in 2007.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:09 am to
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9-6 was not a fluke b/c they were a two loss national champion in 2007.


wtf are you mumbling about?

you'd give your left tit to be a 2 loss national champion
Posted by HogBoxer
Member since May 2011
857 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:10 am to
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no. that was determined on the field


So was the fact that we were a top 5 team.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/4/12 at 11:11 am to
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So was the fact that we were a top 5 team.


no...that was determined by pollsters that obviously hadn't seen y'all play
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