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Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:53 pm to ACL11190
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Miami's 2001 team had 3 times the talent.
Did you come to that conclusion when you were 6 was it in Middle School?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:53 pm to Alahunter
Because of the scores? If 2001 Miami was actually motivated to play a football game they could play with ANYONE.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:54 pm to TT9
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And with Nebraska you knew what was comin and noooooooone could stop it..Osborne was one of the best ever,imo......
This.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:54 pm to ACL11190
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If 2001 Miami was actually motivated to play a football game they could play with ANYONE.
You missed Hunter's post:
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The 1995 Huskers also averaged a victory margin of more than 38 points, the largest of any Division 1-A team since World War II, despite regularly resting their starters in the second halves of games. Averaging more than 53 points per game (including the bowl win)
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:55 pm to ACL11190
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Miami's 2001 team had 3 times the talent.
You only think this because you are basing your definition of "talent" off of NFL performance. In terms of raw talent, Lawrence Phillips and Tommy Frazier were probably better than anyone on the 2001 Miami team. Phillips was just a crazy frick up and Frazier was an option QB though.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:55 pm to Robot Santa
I took it to the MSB.. should get a definitive answer there.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:56 pm to arrakis
I've seen every 1995 Nebraska game. I still have the whole 1995 season on VHS, i still watch it from time to time because i loved that team.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:56 pm to Robot Santa
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In terms of raw talent, Lawrence Phillips and Tommy Frazier were probably better than anyone on the 2001 Miami team.
Andre Johnson
Ed Reed
Sean Taylor
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:58 pm to ACL11190
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I still have the whole 1995 season on VHS, i still watch it from time to time because i loved that team.
Watch it again and this time pay attention.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:59 pm to mattz1122
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You can't honestly tell me that McElroy is better than Campbell was as a senior. Give me a break.
No, but there is certainly not enough of a difference to give 2004 Auburn an edge "because of their QB".
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:03 pm to ACL11190
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Andre Johnson
Ed Reed
Sean Taylor
Clearly you have no appreciation of just how good Phillips and Frazier were if you think these guys are substantially better. Once again NFL success =/= talent.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:03 pm to Robot Santa
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Once again NFL success =/= talent
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:06 pm to ACL11190
Santa is trying to get you to understand the college game is not the NFL. You have to base your comparisons within a like arena
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:08 pm to arrakis
But does NFL success not show who is truly the best player?
player a wins a heisman in college and fails in the NFL and player b is a 6th round pick and ends up winning superbowls ala tom brady who is the better player?
player a wins a heisman in college and fails in the NFL and player b is a 6th round pick and ends up winning superbowls ala tom brady who is the better player?
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:08 pm to superman
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No, but there is certainly not enough of a difference to give 2004 Auburn an edge "because of their QB".
I said their offense was better because of their superior passing game, which is fact.
And Bama's defense isn't that much better (if at all) than Auburn's that year. Both teams were first in the nation, giving up 11 points per game. Auburn gave up just 25-30 more yards per game.
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:18 pm to ACL11190
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But does NFL success not show who is truly the best player?
player a wins a heisman in college and fails in the NFL and player b is a 6th round pick and ends up winning superbowls ala tom brady who is the better player?
You really don't understand the game, do you? NCAA and NFL are two different games....apples vs oranges
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:21 pm to arrakis
And bigtime refs who coach in pro sports are not like local YMCA refs. Apples and oranges there too.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:37 pm to arrakis
I made good on my word.
Alahunter's thread. Clock's ticking.
Alahunter's thread. Clock's ticking.
Posted on 1/9/10 at 10:42 pm to superman
One of the best ever?
They were occasionally dominant, but barely got by an average Auburn team, would've lost to Tennessee if Tennessee had a decent kicker, and had a dubious win over LSU that had at least as much to do with officiating as anything else. The title game was going to come down to a drive by Texas before the fumble, and that was with a true freshman QB with no experience and no expectation of playing leading UT's offense back into the game.
There are many teams that went undefeated and didn't even get a scare. Bama isn't one of those. Very good team, but not even remotely one of the best ever.
They were occasionally dominant, but barely got by an average Auburn team, would've lost to Tennessee if Tennessee had a decent kicker, and had a dubious win over LSU that had at least as much to do with officiating as anything else. The title game was going to come down to a drive by Texas before the fumble, and that was with a true freshman QB with no experience and no expectation of playing leading UT's offense back into the game.
There are many teams that went undefeated and didn't even get a scare. Bama isn't one of those. Very good team, but not even remotely one of the best ever.
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