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re: 2004 AU VS 2003 LSU

Posted on 4/10/10 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69292 posts
Posted on 4/10/10 at 2:40 pm to
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RollTide when YOu [sic]? play and coach at multiple competative (competitive) levels of football and receive a scholarship offer (suggest comma) I'll listen to your football strategy (End sentence and capitalize "but.") but you are clueless.


And when you learn how to spell and use correct grammar I will finally listen to you.
This post was edited on 4/10/10 at 2:42 pm
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 4/10/10 at 2:59 pm to
What would a Vandy fan know about championships anyway?
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6475 posts
Posted on 4/10/10 at 3:57 pm to
I know it will be a long time before LSU ever wins another one.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:14 pm to
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I know it will be a long time before LSU ever wins another one.


You say this shite off of pure jealousy of LSU I bet.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31316 posts
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:18 pm to
2004 AU needed help from the refs to beat 2004 LSU. Big surprise.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41197 posts
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:27 pm to
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2004 AU needed help from the refs to beat 2004 LSU. Big surprise.


it is a rule. not sure why people cant see that. it was just being enforced.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31316 posts
Posted on 4/10/10 at 11:37 pm to
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it is a rule. not sure why people cant see that. it was just being enforced.


Not enforced before or after this game. It was so blatant, you can't even spin it. Karma took care of it with the people's NC though
Posted by LSUgotserved12
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2009
57 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 3:37 am to
Does anyone think that after the arse whooping USC put on Oklahoma, that Auburn really had much of a chance anyway?
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 7:57 am to
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Does anyone think that after the arse whooping USC put on Oklahoma, that Auburn really had much of a chance anyway?


That's exactly the problem with CFB. Team A destroys Team B, therefore Team A is better than Team C and we're not going to even let Team C play Team A, we'll just award Team A the championship.

OU laid an absolute egg in that game. Turned the ball over 4 or 5 times. What if AU actually played USC and didnt turn the ball over 4 or 5 times? Who knows who woulda won.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9849 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 8:50 am to
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But I'd take 2004 AU over 2003 LSU.


This is a tough question. but to be honest I think the undefeated season is a greater accomplishment for Au even thought they didn't win the BCSCG or even get the invite. They still won the SEC. I'd go with a perfect season and we all know Bama would claim the NC anyway.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9849 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 8:55 am to
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Does anyone think that after the arse whooping USC put on Oklahoma, that Auburn really had much of a chance anyway?


No, not really. USC had beaten Au pretty bad the previous two seasons (which doesn't really mean they would again in 04) and probably hurt Au's chances of jumping OU.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 9:16 am to
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No, not really. USC had beaten Au pretty bad the previous two seasons


USC beat AU by a TD in 02, won 23-0 the next year. Those two games have absolutely no relevance on what whould've happened in 2004.
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9849 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 9:20 am to
do you really think that did not wiegh in the back of voters minds when comtemplating moving Au ahead of OU? I know it shouldn't but I bet it did.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 9:23 am to
IMO, the biggest mistake people are making in this thread is playing the "but LSU won a NC" card. That's a flawed argument.

CFB is the only sport in which you can win all of your games and not even sniff playing for the NC. AU had absolutely no control over playing for the NC. The only thing they controlled was playing for the SEC championship.

I guess LSU fans are also going to tell us that their 2 loss "NC" season was more impressive than AU's undefeated season.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 9:26 am to
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do you really think that did not wiegh in the back of voters minds when comtemplating moving Au ahead of OU? I know it shouldn't but I bet it did.


Dude, the voters/media had crowned USC/OU the best two teams before the season even started. The entire season they were hyping the possibility of a OU/USC championship game. There was NOTHING AU could've of done to jump OU, absolutely nothing.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:12 am to
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This post was edited on 4/11/10 at 10:35 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:14 am to
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And when you learn how to spell and use correct grammar I will finally listen to you.





Wow.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:15 am to
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Does anyone think that after the arse whooping USC put on Oklahoma, that Auburn really had much of a chance anyway?


The only common opponent Auburn dominated from the word go. It would have been a close game that could have gone either way, OU was vastly over rated that year as I think VT could have beaten the tar out of OU.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:18 am to
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Defeating Virginia Tech 16-13 in the Sugar Bowl doesn't help your case for a split national championship.




Did you watch the game? That was the standard Tuberville "Get up on them early, then sit on the ball and play defense to get out of there" game. We didn't put up any style points and there 14 points were absolute garbage at the end of the fourth quarter.

I agree it didn't help our case, I just want to establish that that game was not as close as the score indicates.
This post was edited on 4/11/10 at 10:40 am
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:38 am to
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No, not really. USC had beaten Au pretty bad the previous two seasons (which doesn't really mean they would again in 04) and probably hurt Au's chances of jumping OU.


In 2002 Auburn was tied at half, USC got a field goal in the 3rd Auburn tied it back up with a field goal of our own before USC was able to get a last minute TD that Auburn wasn't able to match.

Only in 2003 with the Hugh Nall fiasco were we beaten soundly and even that score is deceptive all of their TDs came from turnovers on our side of the field they scored only a couple of field goals when starting on their side of the field. With Petrino in 2003 we'd have thumped USC pretty hard but oh well that's how it went.
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