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re: 2004 AU VS 2003 LSU
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:22 pm to auzach91
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:22 pm to auzach91
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but a 24-0 beating of a #4 uga team means nothing? and a 38-28 whooping of the #7 team in tennessee didnt matter either.
It was 24-6 over Georgia. That was a good victory for you guys. But LSU's victory over UGA at a neutral site looks much better. And you could have at least cited your regular season game against Tennessee. It was much more impressive than the '04 SEC title game. Tennessee was very much in that game and trailed 35-28 at one point in the fourth quarter.
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Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:23 pm to Rickety Cricket
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I find that hard to believe.
im not sure why? its a football game. im not going to let something like that ruin my month or year. im not going to lie and say i wasnt furious at the time of the standings coming out, after the SEC championship game, but when we won that sugar bowl i forgot all about not being in the "national championship game". there is no one in this world right now (or probably ever) that can convince me the 04 auburn team was not national champions. they did all they were asked and then some.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:25 pm to RollTide1987
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They put points on the board when they needed to
THEY LOST A GAME! They obviously werent able to get points when they needed to, or they would have gone undefeated.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:28 pm to BhamDore
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Undefeated SECC> 1 loss SECC. The MNCG doesn't mean as much because everyone is not given the same chance to get their.
You're an idiot if you think that. The national championship means much more to any fan here if they are telling the truth. I'm sure it means much more to you but you are sacrificing your beliefs in order to rescue your own arse in this debate.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:29 pm to BamaDixi
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conservative?
Caddy and Ronnie didn't even rush for as many yards as Trent and Mark did in 09...AU 2004 even rushed for many fewer attempts. I'm not sure about that "conservative" statement.
Are you sure you know what the word conservative means?
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:29 pm to auzach91
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THEY LOST A GAME! They obviously werent able to get points when they needed to, or they would have gone undefeated.
So what if they lost a game? They still won the national championship, which is more than 2004 Auburn can say. I'd rather have a one-loss national championship season than an undefeated season that nets me just a conference title.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:31 pm to auzach91
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they did all they were asked and then some.
So did 2004 Oklahoma and 2004 USC. Why deny them when they started the season ranked #1 and #2?
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:31 pm to RollTide1987
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So what if they lost a game?
your statement is not true, is what. you said they were about to score when they wanted to, obviously they werent able to do that, as they lost a game. auburn 04 was able to score when they needed. they didnt lose a game.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:32 pm to RollTide1987
Oklahoma didn't do all they could and then some?
Hell they lost to K. State in their championship game.
Hell they lost to K. State in their championship game.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:34 pm to BhamDore
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2004 Auburn also had a perfect season while LSU had a blemish so because so voters decided to to give a trophy to LSU makes it a better season than a perfect one?
I have said I will take the perfect season over and over. AU never knew what it felt like to lose that year and knew we were better every week of the year and showed it on the field. A perfect season is my vote. Also, that AU team is almost always mentioned even today whenever the need for a playoff and BCS failures comes up. And that AU team is voted higher on SEC teams of the decade list every time than '03 LSU.
As for who I think would win, 2004 AU. Defenses were about the same and AU had a more powerful offense though Tubs just sat on leads in 12/13 games in 2004.
This post was edited on 4/10/10 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:34 pm to RollTide1987
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So did 2004 Oklahoma and 2004 USC. Why deny them when they started the season ranked #1 and #2?
i have never said they sould be denied. they also did what was asked. auburn beat 5 top 10 teams. both of them only beat 2. there was no way auburn was going to the ship if they won out, there is nothing we could do. that is why i wasnt as mad as i thought i would be. there was no greater feeling than that year. i celebrated like it was a championship, and i still consider it a championship.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:35 pm to auzach91
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your statement is not true, is what. you said they were about to score when they wanted to, obviously they werent able to do that, as they lost a game.
This is true. But when it came to the game that mattered (the SEC Championship) they scored when they had to. Had that game been closer, you would have most likely seen USC and Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl instead of LSU. That's what I mean when I say they scored when they had to.
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auburn 04 was able to score when they needed. they didnt lose a game.
Any chance of getting to the national title evaporated when they only beat a 6-5 Alabama team by 8 points. Any chance of a split national title went away when they only beat Virginia Tech by 3 points.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:38 pm to auzach91
How could Auburn have played 5 teams in the Top 10 when only 4 teams they played that season had a record above .500? Think before you type. Only Georgia and Virginia Tech finished in the AP Top 10.
This post was edited on 4/10/10 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:41 pm to TTsTowel
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Oklahoma didn't do all they could and then some? Hell they lost to K. State in their championship game.
We're talking about 2004 Oklahoma, not 2003.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:42 pm to RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:43 pm to RollTide1987
My guess is when AU played them, UT, LSU, UGA, UT again, VT all top 10.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:45 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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My guess is when AU played them, UT, LSU, UGA, UT again, VT all top 10.
It's not about where you start, it's about where you finish.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:47 pm to RollTide1987
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Any chance of getting to the national title evaporated when they only beat a 6-5 Alabama team by 8 points.
Did not matter. AU was not going to jump OU or USC. And anyone that watched that IB knew it was not that close. AU scored 21 straight points on 3 easy TD drives to essentially put the game away in JHW. Yeah Bama got a giveaway td to cut the lead from 16 to 8 in the last minute of the game. Big deal.
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Any chance of a split national title went away when they only beat Virginia Tech by 3 points.
After the destruction of OU, AU was NOT going to jump USC unless AU beat VT by about 100.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:47 pm to BhamDore
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2004 Auburn also had a perfect season while LSU had a blemish so because so voters decided to to give a trophy to LSU makes it a better season than a perfect one?
LSU EARNED their NC trophy. It was not given to them. AU had a great season in 04 but it wasn't meant to be. OU and USC went undefeated as well plus AUs nonconference schedule was a joke. I would rather have the BCS trophy instead the people's national championship.
I would take 03 LSU in a matchup cuz their D was outstanding.
Posted on 4/10/10 at 1:48 pm to RollTide1987
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It's not about where you start, it's about where you finish.
I have seen bammers prop up their schedule by saying it is more important where a team is ranked when you beat them, so that goes either way depending on how you are trying to argue.
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