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re: Luke may be out tonight.....

Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:58 pm to
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Until today he was keeping Luke 100%.


What does that even mean? He fired the guy and he’s been AD for less than a month. How much more quickly do you think he could’ve acted?
Posted by Ole Colonel 27
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:58 pm to
Yea boosters said get him the frick out and carter said yes sir.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:59 pm to
I think Boyce was the only hurdle to getting rid of Luke because of the buyout. When Keith came back after the Egg Bowl with the buyout money (along with a coach to replace Luke supposedly), he finally agreed to it.
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:59 pm to
I'll trade places with Luke tonight for a multi-million dollar buyout.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:00 pm to
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What does that even mean? He fired the guy and he’s been AD for less than a month. How much more quickly do you think he could’ve acted?
He only fired him bc the boosters showed up on his door step with the money to do it. It was not in his plans to fire him this year.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:01 pm to
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Yea boosters said get him the frick out and carter said yes sir.


But just yesterday these same boosters loved Luke, their GOB that gave them access.

The narrative changes over here by the hour

(No idea if you’ve ever said anything to that affect, Colonel. Just saying in general over here)
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:03 pm to
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He only fired him bc the boosters showed up on his door step with the money to do it. It was not in his plans to fire him this year.


Right, but see above post. All we’ve heard all year is that the boosters love Luke, he gives them access and they want him. Allegedly the only way he could be gone is if Carter went rogue.

So now he’s a yes man bc those same boosters had a change of heart?

Sure, I guess I could believe that. It just completely contradicts what the prevailing sentiment has been here for quite some time.

eta: and just to be clear, if that is true then we have our GOB boosters to thank for ousting Luke and being a catalyst for positive change and not Keith Carter.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68502 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:03 pm to
Luke being given 3 years to be our head coach was the boosters 100%.

He served his purpose and now they want him gone
Posted by Ole Colonel 27
Member since Oct 2011
2453 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:05 pm to
Wasn’t all boosters. What I’ve heard it was two or three that have enough clout.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:07 pm to
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Until today he was keeping Luke 100%.


I heard Boyce was the holdout who finally relented.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6891 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:07 pm to
And for a $6.5 million bonus that's a pretty damn good deal.

quote:

Luke being given 3 years to be our head coach was the boosters 100%.

He served his purpose and now they want him gone


Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:08 pm to
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Wasn’t all boosters. What I’ve heard it was two or three that have enough clout.


Oh okay well if it was that few ppl then that makes sense.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:09 pm to
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I think Boyce was the only hurdle to getting rid of Luke because of the buyout.


That’s what I’ve heard from a second hand source. I’m not sure the buyout was the only reason, but Boyce didn’t give the OK until the past 24 hours.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 9:10 pm
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Wasn’t all boosters. What I’ve heard it was two or three that have enough clout.

Neal and Chase are saying that one person in particular put up a big portion of it.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 9:49 pm to
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Boyce is still part of the “Problem”



I'm actually warming to Boyce. I can't really give specifics other than some of y'all would be surprised at some of the people on campus saying to give him a chance. Apparently, he has been pretty successful with fence mending thus far as he's gone about meeting the administration of various administrators. Personally, I've moved to be open to seeing what he actually does around here before making any judgements.

Everyone still agrees the search was a sham (and a waste of money), but he may actually be a good choice.

So maybe things aren't as bad as they seem; I certainly didn't expect to see Luke fired. Interesting times.
Posted by WhistlinDixie15
I make people sleepy
Member since Oct 2012
7782 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 10:00 pm to
I’ll concede that much and obviously be open to change my mind if proven wrong

But our administration reeks of the same shite plaguing the DNC right now... big donors propping up their people and keeping the good ole boy system alive even though it’s sinking the ship
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 10:18 pm to
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I’ll concede that much and obviously be open to change my mind if proven wrong

But our administration reeks of the same shite plaguing the DNC right now... big donors propping up their people and keeping the good ole boy system alive even though it’s sinking the ship


I'll definitely grant that it is completely believable that Boyce pulled a "one of us" at his first at bat here with a coach.

However, I can see an alternative where he was still the holdout until the boosters came in with money. It's his job to be the pragmatic one in the room.

Look down at FSU - they're in a world of shite right now because the big boosters wanted Taggert gone, forced the president's hand, but then didn't want to cough up the additional cash to actually hire a coach after all that buyout. Thrasher has now had to ask all boosters to generously give a one-time additional 20% of their usual booster contribution because they're broke.

So while I can totally see a scenario where he blocks this just because he's being conservative for the sake of protecting Luke, I can also see him holding things up until some folks actually want to put their money where their mouth is, basically saying, "If we do this, it's going to cost a lot of money, much of which UMAAF can't just cough up no matter how pissed all of you are."

I suspect if he truly was the one to hold this up over the weekend that whoever gets hired will say a lot about which of those scenarios is more accurate.
Posted by dhand
nashville
Member since Oct 2015
160 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:05 pm to
Amen
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