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re: Wormholes, Stargates, and Time Travel! Oh My!
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:42 am to BoarEd
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:42 am to BoarEd
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...the Government has been spending a lot of money on this work.
Not really. The DIA effort is around 4 million dollars per year. Your electrical engineering department at UA has a larger research budget than that. Of course, there are other agencies at work on it (DARPA, NIAC) but it's still pretty small compared to conventional science/engineering research. There won't be really big bucks (as in many billions)expended until there's a breakthrough in the science that warrants engineering development.
Now, it's cool nonetheless. I know there was a UA grad working at Eagleworks for a while; might still be there.
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:50 am to BoarEd
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:48 am to Rambler
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Of course, there are other agencies at work on it (DARPA, NIAC)
This is the key part of your post. Of all the programs listed in the source material here all but the stuff on propulsion has been declassified. I'm most interested in seeing what research they are working on. Of course DARPA isn't directly related to this stuff here, but their budget alone is sure to dwarf all of this stuff here. They work on everything from linguistics to exotic craft.
Either way, I don't think the programs are fruitless as Kentucker seems to suggest.
Meet the man who runs the Earth Tech company (who is responsible for most of the research in this AATIP program.) His name is Hal Puthoff.
This guy is a Stanford educated electrical engineer who went on to work for Naval Intelligence and later worked for the DIA and CIA. He is one of a group of guys people have had their eye on for years now. He is a member of The Aviary. Along with other notable guys like Kit Green, John Alexander, and admitted Satanist Col. Michael Aquino.
These guys have been in charge of "perception management" of the UFO phenomena for many years now and not only are these guys serious science types, but they're also experts on psychological warfare and "less than lethal weaponry" (see mind control).
It is therefore, no surprise to me that Hal Puthoff's company has been involved with this shite.
22 million for these projects, as you point out, is just a drop in the bucket, but I can assure you this is far from the only source of research the Government has in this direction. I'm just happy they're opening SOME of it up to the public.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:08 am to BoarEd
One thing I would add to this thread is that the chances are the reason this particular program has been made public is because the "advanced aerospace threat identification program" is obsolete. Everything that comes evenly remotely close to Earth's atmosphere is actually monitored by the National Reconaissance Office (or NRO). And their satellite technology is off the charts advanced. To put it in perspective, the most advanced telescopes that astronomers have at their disposal today are actually hand-me-downs from the NRO.
That'll be the office that has all the actual evidence of UFOs. Everything else is a goose chase.
I would also add that I think the chances are good that these research projects are attempts at reverse engineering the traits they see in these "unidentified aerial phenomena" objects.
That'll be the office that has all the actual evidence of UFOs. Everything else is a goose chase.
I would also add that I think the chances are good that these research projects are attempts at reverse engineering the traits they see in these "unidentified aerial phenomena" objects.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:04 am to BoarEd
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To put it in perspective, the most advanced telescopes that astronomers have at their disposal today are actually hand-me-downs from the NRO.
You make some outlandish claims. Here are a few of the most advanced space telescopes now being used or soon to be used by science; there are countless radio, x-ray and optical land-based telescopes as well; none of these telescopes are hand-me-down technologies from the NRO or any other organization; they are new, revolutionary technologies: Hubble Space Telescope
Chandra X-Ray Telescope
Spitzer Infrared Space Telescope
Europe's Gaia Space Telescope
Posted on 1/25/19 at 4:58 pm to Kentucker
Kentucker, one of these days you'll learn that I'm not talking out my arse over here. I know some stuff too. 
"The 2012 National Reconnaissance Office space telescope donation to NASA was the declassification and donation to NASA of two identical space telescopes by the United States National Reconnaissance Office. The donation has been described by scientists as a substantial improvement over NASA's current Hubble Space Telescope."
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"The 2012 National Reconnaissance Office space telescope donation to NASA was the declassification and donation to NASA of two identical space telescopes by the United States National Reconnaissance Office. The donation has been described by scientists as a substantial improvement over NASA's current Hubble Space Telescope."
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This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/25/19 at 6:16 pm to BoarEd
I think we're talking about two different types of satellite imaging technologies. You seem focused (pardon the pun) on spy satellites. I'm stressing space discovery satellites which are the platforms for imaging stars and other distant space objects.
The two satellites donated by the NRO will have to be gutted and then refitted for space observation, at NASA's expense. It isn't the same technology that the military is using to spy on Russia, China and other less-than-friendly nations.
It blows my mind that our military has a $700 billion budget while NASA's is only $20 billion. Add to that the secret budget for the CIA and it become incredible how much money we pay to police the world.
The two satellites donated by the NRO will have to be gutted and then refitted for space observation, at NASA's expense. It isn't the same technology that the military is using to spy on Russia, China and other less-than-friendly nations.
It blows my mind that our military has a $700 billion budget while NASA's is only $20 billion. Add to that the secret budget for the CIA and it become incredible how much money we pay to police the world.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 6:31 pm to Kentucker
Yes, these are the satellites that the NRO used to use to read people's license plate numbers from outer space.
I knew about this when it happened because I heard it directly from the horse's mouth, as it were, from someone who works/ed for the Kepler program, which, as I'm sure you're aware, is responsible for discovering Earth like exoplanets in our galaxy. My acquaintance was very excited about NASA being gifted those satellites from the NRO because they are BETTER than Hubble.
And they are hand-me-downs. She also said the same things you did about it being ridiculous that our defense budget dwarfs our science budget, but it is what it is.
The NROs stuff is way better than what we are aware.
The current rumor is that they can train a spy satellite on your house and determine what you are saying inside by monitoring the window's vibrations produced by your voice.
WOW.
I knew about this when it happened because I heard it directly from the horse's mouth, as it were, from someone who works/ed for the Kepler program, which, as I'm sure you're aware, is responsible for discovering Earth like exoplanets in our galaxy. My acquaintance was very excited about NASA being gifted those satellites from the NRO because they are BETTER than Hubble.
And they are hand-me-downs. She also said the same things you did about it being ridiculous that our defense budget dwarfs our science budget, but it is what it is.
The NROs stuff is way better than what we are aware.
The current rumor is that they can train a spy satellite on your house and determine what you are saying inside by monitoring the window's vibrations produced by your voice.
WOW.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 6:39 pm to BoarEd
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My acquaintance was very excited about NASA being gifted those satellites from the NRO because they are BETTER than Hubble.
They can't be better than Hubble because they're not the same technology. The platforms may be far better but the telescopes have radically different purposes.
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And they are hand-me-downs
Again, the satellite platforms are but the telescopes NASA puts on them are unique.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 6:47 pm to Kentucker
No shite Kentucker, they’re better because they’re NOT the same technology. If they were the same technology they wouldn’t be better. It’s simple. How somebody can think themselves sooooooooo smart and not get basic sense is amazing.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 6:53 pm to Kentucker
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It blows my mind that our military has a $700 billion budget while NASA's is only $20 billion
The treasure known as knowledge must be defended
Posted on 1/25/19 at 6:59 pm to thatguy45
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The treasure known as knowledge must be defended
100% agree.
Unfortunately, under our current paradigm, most, if not all, technological advances that make it to the public sector, have only made it to the public sector because the military has green-lit the release of said technology. Again, just the way it is. He who has the bombs, makes the rules.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:09 pm to Kentucker
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It blows my mind that our military has a $700 billion budget while NASA's is only $20 billion. Add to that the secret budget for the CIA...
Hey hippie, did Astronauts beat the Nazis? No? Then shut the frick up.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:11 pm to KSGamecock
Hey man, we are still fighting Nazis.
Nobody has beaten them yet.
Nobody has beaten them yet.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:14 pm to KSGamecock
But NASA was made up of nazis
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:23 pm to thatguy45
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But NASA was made up of nazis
Absolutely it was.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:40 pm to thatguy45
Yea but they were our Nazis.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:48 pm to KSGamecock
Yep. And then there were the others that werent our Nazis. And then there are the Nazis that rose within our own ranks and sold us out.
In process of clearing them out currently. Two of them recently had state funerals held in their honor.
In process of clearing them out currently. Two of them recently had state funerals held in their honor.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:56 pm to BoarEd
Ok Q. Suuuuure.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:58 pm to KSGamecock
Truth will out, as they say.
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