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Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:46 pm to td01241
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:21 am to samson'sseed
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Just remember this: Republicans are not on your side, unless you have well over a million dollars.
The stupidest thing I've read in a while. Proves to me several things - namely your age and background/life experience.
You do realize that 5 decades of increasingly lax entitlement policies have made your situation WORSE, right!?!
I'm trying really hard not to call you names right now.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:54 am to cas4t
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Oh no, I understand that. I just do't know what you see so wrong with being a progressive. Progressivism bred modern liberalism, and they are related in many ways. Progressivism at it's core and beginnings is based on income inequality.
"always believed that wise progressivism and wise conservatism go hand in hand"-Theo Roosevelt
I assume you're a de-regulation guy?
FTR I don't identify as a full blow progressive.
What I have a hard time dealing with is that the progressives and conservatives don't seem to have a good handle on "regulation". Conservatives think all regulation is bad. Progressives think all regulation is good. Personally, I'm for the regulations that increase market competitiveness and I'm against the regulations that artificially decrease the supply of things like housing, energy, and infrastructure. Regulations that relate to public health and the environment, I place a priority on, but believe we should implement without impacting growth. Modern politics is so reductive it eliminates even basic nuance.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:58 am to TeLeFaWx
Then you're a free market capitalist who just can't quiet get around to admitting it because of dumbasses like Trump who make you uneasy. It's okay. Open competition and fewer regulations are the only way to get us back on track. You cannot tax yourself out of the mud. Capitalism is what made this country great, the envy of the world, and what will make us great again. 
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:04 am to Hog Leg
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fewer regulations are the only way to get us back on track
Yeah, the eroding of banking regulations did wonders for the financial sector a decade ago.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:23 am to Hog Leg
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Then you're a free market capitalist who just can't quiet get around to admitting it because of dumbasses like Trump who make you uneasy.
Trump doesn't really make me uneasy. Obama didn't make me uneasy. Hillary makes me a little uneasy, but simply because things will keep continuing down to South American levels of corruption. Trump is for progressive taxes, which I am for. I think flat taxes are inherently regressive, and progressive taxes incentivize the rich to invest their money and earn capital gains as opposed to sit on their money. I think that the marginal propensity to consume is not constant, and we need to have a tax policy that acknowledges that. Progressive taxes are not unfair, nor are they socialist. They are common sense that is backed by conservative macroeconomic and microeconomic principles. I am against Republicans that tout otherwise. I am for lowering the tax burden on lower income before I ever am on the wealthy. Increasing the tax burden on the wealthy can often times make them work harder.
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It's okay. Open competition and fewer regulations are the only way to get us back on track.
Regulations can increase open competition as well. To say that fewer regulations always leads to more competition is not only disingenuous, it's just flat out false. Like with trade. Like with net neutrality.
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You cannot tax yourself out of the mud.
Yes you can. Investing in infrastructure via taxes instead of printing money is probably the best solution we have to our problems. Increasing clean, safe, public transportation can increase housing supply. That alone is reason enough to do it. Now, I'd much rather use the money we are already taking from people to do that, but our government is designed poorly and we've allowed lobbyists and special interests to claim most of our money. Unless the military industrial complex slows down we just don't have any other way to come up with the cash. But asking for the military industrial complex to stop receiving trillions is a pipedream.
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Capitalism is what made this country great, the envy of the world, and what will make us great again.
Capitalism is the vehicle for American, and even global exceptionalism, no doubt. But the world isn't Atlas Shrugged. Other things mattered as well. Combined with rugged individualism, cheap energy, cheap housing, cheap education, unclaimed equity in the frontier, great infrastructure, anti-trust laws, extreme mobility, and a host of other things are what made this country the envy of the world. Trump making better trade deals could be seen as anti-Capitalism in most regards, but they would protect and embolden many of the other things that made America Great.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 5:29 pm to The Spleen
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Yeah, the eroding of banking regulations did wonders for the financial sector a decade ago.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:48 pm to TeLeFaWx
You can tax the shirt off my back, but that will never stop liberal power-brokers from printing more money to disguise their failed social-justice(a.k.a. "spread the wealth") economic model
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:30 pm to The Spleen
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Yeah, the eroding of banking regulations did wonders for the financial sector a decade ago.
Regulations aren't the answer. Holding people accountable is the answer. We bailed the frickers out, it's only a matter of time til it happens again.
The economy is built on a house of cards. It's propped up by manipulation and it's only a matter of time until it crashes.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:35 pm to Mars duMorgue
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We're pro-weed and we have no moral hangups about sex. If that doesn't ring your bell, you're a lost cause.
So are libertarians. Except they don't have the bat shite insanity of the SJW
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:54 pm to bayoumuscle21
It doesn't matter. If your vote counted, they wouldn't let you do it.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If we are being honest and understand that evangelicalism does not equal conservatism, then so are conservatives.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:53 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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If we are being honest and understand that evangelicalism does not equal conservatism, then so are conservatives.
Some. I think most conservatives are more open to ideas across the aisle. Not the ones we elect, the system is broken and not sure it can be fixed.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 12:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
If you're over the age of 25 and you plan on being a success and shite, NO reason to ever vote Democrat.
Clinton is about as bad a candidate as could EVER be elected to the WH.
Clinton is about as bad a candidate as could EVER be elected to the WH.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Defining what a true conservative is has become the problem. Everyone wants to run under the conservative tag when most aren't. The sheep hear that word and vote.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:23 pm to JamalSanders
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Trickle down is a proved failure as an economic policy.
DaFuk? Then what in your mind is a successful economic policy?
Proven fact Trickle-down is a hoax.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:23 pm to bayoumuscle21
I vote Democrat to vote against the religious right.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 6:40 am to lsusteve1
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If you're over the age of 25 and you plan on being a success and shite, NO reason to ever vote Democrat.
Clinton is about as bad a candidate as could EVER be elected to the WH.
This is honestly what I think,but I like to discuss differences with people who I disagree with. That way I may be able to understand the way they think,rather than just spew my ideas without hearing anyone else's.
Tbh,they haven't given me any decent,factual reason to ever vote dem, especially in this upcoming debate. As pathetic of a candidate that Trump is, Hillary is still so much worse.
All in all, Americans have failed to give us a decent choice for the next 4/8 years.
This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 6:44 am
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:22 am to CaptainBrannigan
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I vote Democrat to vote against the religious right.
They're a minority even among Republicans
Shows you how pathetic politics have become here. More people vote against something than vote for something.
This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 10:23 am
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