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Why does the Marines Core exist?

Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:12 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:12 pm
What major war have they won? Let's run through all the major wars and who won them:

Revolution: Army
1812: Army
Mexican: Army
Civil: Army
Indian: Army
Spanish: Army
WW1: Army:
WW2: Army

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WAAAAH1!! BUT KSG, THEY BEAT THE JAPANESE IN WORL WAR TWOOOOO!


No, atom bombs dropped by Army planes did.

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We neeed them to exist as Naval Infantry, to project naval force inland!!!


Do we really? That's the same justification the Navy uses for the SEALS...the truth is that the Army can and always has done that job when it really mattered.

Let's look at the list of some of the biggest Amphibious Assaults in American History:

D-Day: Army
Inchon: Mixed, commanded by Army General
Phillipines: Army
Torch: army
Okinawa: Mixed, commanded by Army General

Up until WW1 the Marines Core was almost comletely MIA but they always claim "muh history" which is all a big fat PHONEY LIE.

"From the halls of Montezuma": refers to the Battle of Chapultepec in the Mexican American War in which Soldiers outnumbered Marines 7200 vs 400.

"To the shores of Tripoli": refers to the expedition against the Barbary pirates because the Army was too busy beating the British.

The Marines Core should rename themselves the Mareme Corre because that is what they are, a meme, and the rise of their meme can be directly tied to a decline in US Military performance in major conflicts:



Challenge to the reader: Name a famous Marines Core General off the top of your head. Now name a famous Army General.

Marines: You probably can't name one, maybe Mattis but he's only famous for what he did after the Core and because he's currently SecDef, he won't be remembered long term.

Army: Washington, Grant, Sherman, Pershing, Patton, Eisenhower, Bradley, the list goes on and on and on.

Army>Marines and the Army could do their job easy, it is huge government waste to duplicate the capabilities. The Marines only exist in their current form because the Navy started having a big political piss contest with the Army in the late 1800s so they invented and really started pushing the meme...the same reason they invented the SEALs.

They aren't even a self-sufficient force and depend on the Navy and Army for everything and not just Logistics....Artillery and Armor support too. They spend so much money on pretty uniforms and TV ads that they can't afford modern-day equipment and have to use Army hand-me-downs.

Don't @ me, I already know the only response is gonna be that picture of the fat Soldier in that Iraqi DFAC.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:13 pm to
Sausage and pepperoni.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 6:14 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:16 pm to
The United States doesn't need a Marine corps, they want it though.

Since Nov 10th 1775, the United States Marine Corps has been kicking arse all over the world. We are America's 911 force.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:21 pm to
Had this taped on the door of my recruiting office.

This is an actual recruiting poster for the army.



The only two branches Army and Us. I was the only guy in my office. While I worked 100+ hrs a week while the army recruiters got off at 5 (for high suicide rates in USAREC). We met our goals and dominated Market Share for our areas. The army hasn't made recruiting goals in years. They are weak just like most of the cat 4 soldiers that make up the Army. If you wanted to be the best you would've walked into the Marine Corps office rather than staring at it wondering if you could make it.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:21 pm to
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America's 911 force.



WRONG

The correct answer:



LINK
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 6:22 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:23 pm to
Oh brother...
Posted by hogNsinceReagan
Fayetteville, Ar
Member since Feb 2015
5879 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:28 pm to
I don't know a whole lot about it since the farthest into the desert I got was shooting craps in Dubai but just the fear factor is enough to make some Saudi's nervous, I'd bet.

Those dude's probably see 20 army men a day and then all the sudden you got a marine squad on you. The Marines are a different animal when you're learning to kill people.

The terrorists over there know what a truck mechanic is the same as they know what a Navy Seal is.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71125 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:31 pm to
Yep. One of my buddies got raided on bastion in Afg. A HMLA unit took down the insurgants. Buddy was walking back from chow when it was kicking off.

I remember when I was in AQ Iraq. Nothing there and snowflake warnings all the time about possible raids. Wild west by Syria.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25171 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:32 pm to
They are what they are.

A specialized force that, as of right now, happens to be just what we need. Mixed infantry that is capable of being deployed rapidly to trouble spots around the world.

Marine Corp General... well you got to go with Chesty Puller. Personally, for famous Army General, I'd go with Dwight Eisenhower.

Are they better then the Army? Well any Marine will say they are. They had a bad habit of being beaten like a drum in war games against the heavy Armored divisions that used to be the gauntlet of American military might. Then again the Iraqis did a lot worse against the armored divisions and the Marines did cover themselves in glory during the first Gulf War.

They do, however, combine ASL (Air, Sea, Land) to a great degree since all of those elements are tied into the Marines.

The Marines are a semi-elite combat force. On par with the US Army Rangers and Airborne divisions. Below Special Forces.

If you really want to ruffle some feathers below the SAS, SBS, Foreign Legion, and Special Operations Command of Australia.

That still puts them is some fairly darn good company.

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:33 pm to
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The correct answer:

The 82nd hasn't done a combat jump since WW2. They're just as motarded as the Marine Corps, if not worse.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71125 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:36 pm to
I give OP credit for this thread. It should be an interesting one.

I don't have any type of thinking that I'm better than anyone. I know what I chose though because of what it's known for.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:36 pm to
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I remember when I was in AQ Iraq. Nothing there and snowflake warnings all the time about possible raids. Wild west by Syria.

When you were in Al Qaim?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:37 pm to
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I don't have any type of thinking that I'm better than anyone. I know what I chose though because of what it's known for.

I know what I chose too because I was stupid and didn't go Air Force or Navy.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:37 pm to
The truth is that probably somewhere around 90% of the entire Military is made up of socially awkward people who either:

1. Couldn’t get into college or didn’t know what to do after high school so they just joined up.

2. Were socially awkward losers in high school and wanted the hero worship associated with being in the military in today’s society.

Or both.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:37 pm to
It’s like arguing about which pocket protector is the coolest.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:38 pm to
All the combat vets got out due to unnecessary bullshite. Same with the Army.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:39 pm to
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The 82nd hasn't done a combat jump since WW2.


From Wiki:

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In 1989 during the U.S invasion of Panama the U.S. 82nd Airborne Division made its first combat jump in over 40 years. The 1st Brigade of the 82nd secured Omar Torrijos International Airport in Tocumen, Panama.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 6:40 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71125 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:40 pm to


I used to have my poolies sabotage the army recruiters when they visited the high schools.

"Hey boss, what school you going to today?" "Oh, right on bro. Good luck". Then send out an all hands text to kids at the school and wait for the recon to come back. It was fun hearing him bitch about it when he got back and didn't get any leads in a priority high school.
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