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re: Who pays to go see women's professional soccer?

Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:18 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:18 am to
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If they are, they need to find another avenue to vent their frustrations! None of the sports news outlets I've watched have mentioned it.

You clearly didn't understand what I said. Can you provide anything that shows the women on those teams aren't paid as much as the men?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:25 am to
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Can you provide anything that shows the women on those teams aren't paid as much as the men?
Yes, and YOU can too.
I know that Japan pays a decent salary to women softball players, but women's softball is more popular in Japan (and probably the U.S.) than men's pro softball (and I don't hear of men bitching about that either). Also, WNBA women make only a small fraction of what the NBA pays.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:28 am to
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Yes, and YOU can too.
I know that Japan pays a decent salary to women softball players, but women's softball is more popular in Japan (and probably the U.S.) than men's pro softball (and I don't hear of men bitching about that either). Also, WNBA women make only a small fraction of what the NBA pays.

The US women's soccer team's argument over pay isn't with their clubs, it's with US Soccer. WNBA vs NBA salaries doesn't mean shite in this context.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:31 am to
I've been to one. I enjoy soccer, and I like some of the women players. It was fine.

I don't follow the league at all though.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:41 am to
Who actually pays the pro players? Is it U.S. Soccer?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:43 am to
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Who actually pays the pro players? Is it U.S. Soccer?

Their main salary is paid by their club, but US Soccer pays them for international duty.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:50 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:49 am to
"The National Women's Soccer League is a professional women's soccer league owned by the teams, and under a management contract with the United States Soccer Federation. At the top of the United States league system, it represents the sport's highest level in the United States."
Let's get our facts straight! Now, so what I'm seeing is a challenge from the players to the club owners THROUGH the U.S. Soccer federation for more money...am I wrong?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:51 am to
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am I wrong?

As I've been saying, yes.

They do want money from their clubs, but they aren't asking to be paid equally to MLS. Their main complaint is to be paid equally for international competitions, which lies solely with US Soccer and doesn't have shite to do with their clubs.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 8:57 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:52 am to
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I've been to one. I enjoy soccer, and I like some of the women players. It was fine.

I don't follow the league at all though.
I can appreciate that. Do you know any people who DO follow it?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30588 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:09 am to
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They do want money from their clubs, but they aren't asking to be paid equally to MLS. Their main complaint is to be paid equally for international competitions, which lies solely with US Soccer and doesn't have shite to do with their clubs.
That's all that I wanted to know. My question was about the "business" or league/club side of it.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:16 am to
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Do you know any people who DO follow it?



Just one person. Her whole family is soccer obsessed.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:19 am to
The average player in the Women's league makes peanuts and often can't afford to be able to live without roommates.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30588 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:31 am to
This, from the current Fox News Report is what I was alluding to.

"While the U.S. women’s soccer team’s unprecedented run of success has attracted lucrative sponsorship deals and the support of countless public figures, the revenue windfall has yet to translate to the National Women’s Soccer League (NWSL). Without ticket revenue, top-dollar broadcast rights deals and meaningful investments from corporate sponsors approaching those of men’s leagues, women’s pro sports leagues have fewer financial resources with which to pay their players salaries that are on par with their male counterparts."

It's obvious that league play and international competitions are two entirely different animals.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:36 am to
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It's obvious that league play and international competitions are two entirely different animals

And the aren't asking for equal pay in league play. So when you say this...
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I agree, but I'm not seeing any of them screaming about getting paid the same money as men either

You are wrong, because they are only asking for equal pay for international competitions.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30588 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:38 am to
"They do want money from their clubs, but they aren't asking to be paid equally to MLS. "...per YOU.

Now which is it?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:41 am to
Do you not realize the huge gulf between more pay and equal pay? If you think there's a women's league in any sport that isn't asking for more pay, then you're head is buried in the sand.

From what I can tell, they haven't filed lawsuits with their league. They have filed lawsuits with US Soccer for equal pay for international competitions.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:44 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:57 am to

I've got an idea...you've answered my question, so let's just drop it.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:19 pm to
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It's obvious that league play and international competitions are two entirely different animals.


The women aren’t suing to be paid more in league play
They’re suing to be paid more from the USSF

Maybe I’m wrong, but just one example was that the USWNT was the highest selling soccer jersey on Nike.com
From my understanding, that money goes all to the USSF not the USWNT.

Is this correct pville?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:27 pm to
This may be dated but sums it up pretty well

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Posted on 7/9/19 at 4:19 pm to
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