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Violent crime continues to climb under Obama says the FBI ...
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:59 pm
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/19/violent-crime-across-country-first-half-2015-fbi/
https://www.newsmax.com/US/crime-violent-homicide-cities/2015/06/04/id/648724/
https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/02/us/crime-in-america/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/us/murder-rates-rising-sharply-in-many-us-cities.html?_r=0
There's no denying it anymore.
https://www.newsmax.com/US/crime-violent-homicide-cities/2015/06/04/id/648724/
https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/02/us/crime-in-america/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/us/murder-rates-rising-sharply-in-many-us-cities.html?_r=0
There's no denying it anymore.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:00 pm to scrooster
Yes. Obama enables the violence and it wasn't around before him. It will continue to climb after him as well. Go to the political board
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:05 pm to olddawg26
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Yes. Obama enables the violence and it wasn't around before him. It will continue to climb after him as well. Go to the political board
Yes, he does, but this is not about him personally ... this is about his justice department, his rhetoric, and this is about how the police are now walking on egg shells worried about becoming another target of the far left wing anarchists ...
More importantly this is about the destruction of this country - the erosion from within. The lack of respect, the missing morals and ethics ... from top to bottom this country is falling apart.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:08 pm to scrooster
You're insane.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:12 pm to olddawg26
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You're insane.
No ... you are.
Violent crime had been on the decline in this country for over three decades.
Now it's on the rise again.
Stock market is tanking, and this time all the quick fixes have been done to death ... overused. It's like the overuse of antibiotics, they don't work anymore.
The country is more polarized than ever ... etc., yada, etc., yada ... but this violent crime ticking upwards ... this is a dangerous, dangerous signal.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:45 pm to scrooster
I dont make scared political threads warning everyone of imminent destruction. The country isnt nearly as bad as your news station is telling you. No matter how many of these fear mongering threads people make, the truth is we'd be in generally the same position regardless who the scary man in the White House could have been. Hey at least we didn't invade the wrong country this time.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:52 pm to scrooster
We know..incredibly..I also have to appear in court,in mid Feb.on a misdemeanor charge because I yelled at somebody that owes me a lot of money. The Charge is called menacing, and the incident happened in my own driveway.
So much crap to talk about, but I don't think this is the right board for it.
So much crap to talk about, but I don't think this is the right board for it.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:55 pm to olddawg26
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I dont make scared political threads warning everyone of imminent destruction. The country isnt nearly as bad as your news station is telling you. No matter how many of these fear mongering threads people make, the truth is we'd be in generally the same position regardless who the scary man in the White House could have been. Hey at least we didn't invade the wrong country this time.
That's the deflection management rhetoric of the left ... lulz.
But, but, but your guy ... he was elected to save us, turn the economy around, bring peace and harmony back to the country. Bring respect back the country globally. Have us all sing kumbaya, blacks and white walking hand in hand singing in the streets. Dogs and cats sleeping together. Everyone has a new car, new phone, new house and unlimited fast food to eat.
lulz
This is about violent crime trending upwards at an alarming rate. Period. No deflection, no excuses, no bravo sierra. This is about this country deteriorating.
We're going backwards, not forwards. We're regressing, not progressing ... which is ironic given you lefties claim to be such progressives.
We're progressing at absolutely nothing except more violent crime, more destruction of the middle class, less tolerance, more PC bravo sierra.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:58 pm to olddawg26
We quickly forget how every generation we become convinced the moral standard of the country is eroding and how the end time is near.
One day it will happen, sure, all things end. If there had been an internet in the 1960's it would have been the same.
If there had been an internet in 1919 it would have been much, much worse.
And one of those articles is from August 2015.
Violent crime is rising? I can believe that. You have deflated wages and under-employment and the areas hurt the most by that are typically in poorer areas anyway.
It is most likely cyclical. Also reading the articles, it appears they are comparing the first half of 14 to the first half of 15.
[quote]According to the Christian Science Monitor, part of the reason the increases look so high is because violent crime, including murder, has dropped so much since the 1990s. In addition, it is not yet clear that it's the beginning of a long-term increase.
"I think it's unfortunate when the media talks a lot about these crime spikes … It tends to scare the public," Inimai Chettiar, director of the Justice Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law, told the CS Monitor. "A lot of people don't even know there was a massive crime decline."[quote]
One day it will happen, sure, all things end. If there had been an internet in the 1960's it would have been the same.
If there had been an internet in 1919 it would have been much, much worse.
And one of those articles is from August 2015.
Violent crime is rising? I can believe that. You have deflated wages and under-employment and the areas hurt the most by that are typically in poorer areas anyway.
It is most likely cyclical. Also reading the articles, it appears they are comparing the first half of 14 to the first half of 15.
[quote]According to the Christian Science Monitor, part of the reason the increases look so high is because violent crime, including murder, has dropped so much since the 1990s. In addition, it is not yet clear that it's the beginning of a long-term increase.
"I think it's unfortunate when the media talks a lot about these crime spikes … It tends to scare the public," Inimai Chettiar, director of the Justice Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law, told the CS Monitor. "A lot of people don't even know there was a massive crime decline."[quote]
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:59 pm to auggie
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We know..incredibly..I also have to appear in court,in mid Feb.on a misdemeanor charge because I yelled at somebody that owes me a lot of money. The Charge is called menacing, and the incident happened in my own driveway.
So much crap to talk about, but I don't think this is the right board for it.
Well ... it's not politics unless olddawg wants to make it about politics.
It's about leadership ... it's about the overall general bad healthy of the country right now. It's about rising unemployment and underemployment. It's about this country being so polarized right now ... I dunno.
Whatever.
Your situation is exactly the point.
You're going to court for yelling at someone in your own driveway and your record could be seriously damaged.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:00 pm to auggie
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We know..incredibly..I also have to appear in court,in mid Feb.on a misdemeanor charge because I yelled at somebody that owes me a lot of money. The Charge is called menacing, and the incident happened in my own driveway.
So much crap to talk about, but I don't think this is the right board for it.
Careful don't say to much or they'll enhance it to terroristic threat.
It's true violent crime is up and it's been a long time since this has occurred. I think the current administration is partially to blame but there are other factors involved.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:05 pm to scrooster
Don't care.
I just got gas for $1.59
I just got gas for $1.59
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:06 pm to Agforlife
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It's true violent crime is up
No doubt.
But that is not necessarily a trend.
Last year the violent crime rate was lower than it had been in twenty years.
This is the link from the FBI that shows the numbers
FBI Crime Table 1995-2014
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:09 pm to scrooster
Yes, I hate this functioning economy and lack of warmongering. I'll go put my (still legal) shotgun back in the case now. 
People in-fighting over social progress is what happens when the REAL issues become non-issues, be it temporary or otherwise.
People in-fighting over social progress is what happens when the REAL issues become non-issues, be it temporary or otherwise.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:10 pm to Agforlife
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but there are other factors involved.
Yes, there are other factors involved, mostly I think we have people that would like to live in a world where they never get dirty,bloody,sweaty,sunburned,smelly,greasy,scarred up,or anything else that comes along with being a Free Human Being.
If you are the type of person, that just files that away with life,you are dangerous to them.
If you get cut and just tape yourself, then put on some super glue, you are dangerous, if you try to take care of yourself, instead of calling the cops, you are an outlaw, even though you know, the cops will never fix anything.. they just want a way to fine somebody for something. So they want to be informed.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:48 pm to Agforlife
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It's true violent crime is up and it's been a long time since this has occurred. I think the current administration is partially to blame but there are other factors involved.
Well, if you listen to the current administration it's up because of our 2nd Amendment.
In truth, it's up because of drugs, more drugs in the street than ever before. It's up because the ghettos and slums have gotten worse, not better, over the years. It's worse because most of it is happening in the inner cities where it's tough to pull out of that environment ... and much easier to turn to a life of crime evidently, for whatever reasons ... survival I guess, I dunno. Could be the glorification of the drug culture by the media and hollywood, who knows.
It's up because Cops are gun-shy right now.
It's up because the justice department is no longer prosecuting lower level felony crime.
It's up because it has become acceptable, because it's become the norm, in eight short years. There is no longer any pressure being applied to slow it down ... it's just been let-go-of.
It's up because our POTUS has made excuses for it and blamed it on everyone except where the blame should be placed.
It's up because we continue to allow a bad element to migrate into this country.
And one thing we know about violent crime. Left unchecked, it will spread.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:51 pm to scrooster
Log off
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:55 pm to scrooster
Wow, that is a LOT to extrapolate from one year of crime reports...
The fact is 2014 was the lowest recorded ratio of violent crime.
Feel free to criticize the President all you want, but this is not really proof of anything except there was a spike in violent crime last year.
The fact is 2014 was the lowest recorded ratio of violent crime.
Feel free to criticize the President all you want, but this is not really proof of anything except there was a spike in violent crime last year.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:55 pm to scrooster
The guns have never been an issue in my eyes. It is how we punish those who use guns to kill, intimidate or harm others that is issue. We don't punish gun violence severely enough. With gun violence being glorified through music, tv, movies and social media the way it has, we can only counter the ever growing problem with punishing crime harsher. jmo
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:59 pm to MontyFranklyn
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The guns have never been an issue in my eyes. It is how we punish those who use guns to kill, intimidate or harm others that is issue. We don't punish gun violence severely enough. With gun violence being glorified through music, tv, movies and social media the way it has, we can only counter the ever growing problem with punishing crime harsher. jmo
Again it is probably a mistake to base it off of one year. Overall violent crime has been dropping since the early 90's.
Gun advocates used 2014 data as proof guns were not the issue.
Should anti-gun people try to argue the last year was an argument for gun control?
Now if a trend develops that is different. But there is no trend line except last year where violent crime has risen.
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