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re: Tom Brady's Agent offers Trevor Lawrence a Pro Contract with Adidas endorsement
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:15 am to Leto II
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:15 am to Leto II
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I don't think most 17-18 year olds are physically ready for the NFL. You may lose some of the skill positions, but areas like the lines still need that time to mature and develop I would think.
Since this isn't the NFL....
Look these people are saying in a round about way "we are like college. We will pay for your college and you get a salary and then enter the draft"
So those line, D and O, will be developed there.
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:19 am to Jjdoc
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If the PPFL takes the top talent out of HS, and the other 2 follow suit, Where does that leave the NCAA.
Is anyone going to tune in just to watch really good college players?
People watch college for the brands. People watch the NFL for the talent and skill. What are people going to watch the PPFL for? Less talent and skill?
The AAF's plan is based around getting players who already have fanbases, so I doubt they'll do this. I'm planning on going to the first Birmingham vs Memphis game because it's practically former Alabama-State-AU vs LSU-UT-Arkansas players.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:22 am to Jjdoc
So are they trying to be an official farm league for the NFL and bypass the college ranks, or are they hoping to supplant the league altogether.
The first is viable, the latter won't happen.
The first is viable, the latter won't happen.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:22 am to Jjdoc
The advantage that college football has over college basketball and baseball in retaining the top "amateur" talent is the heavy investment in facilities fixed costs. You can play a basketball game anywhere. You can play a baseball game in the hundreds of minor league parks around the country. True marquee football venues are limited. These alternative leagues will be playing in 2nd rate stadiums because the NFL owners and major colleges wont let them use theirs. Localities are already rejecting stadium financing for established teams and major colleges have lobbyists and control of their state legislatures to prevent financing new stadiums at a state level.
I agree with the poster who wrote that this will just result in a re-write to the NCAA laws to allow football players to be paid legally.
I agree with the poster who wrote that this will just result in a re-write to the NCAA laws to allow football players to be paid legally.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:23 am to RD Dawg
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Not looking at anything.
Unless the owners are a bunch of billionares that love losing money the league will last 3 years max.
Adidas doesn't have money? They don't make money from TV contracts? etc??
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Why would these guys leave college for a non guaranteed
contract
And endorsement and a contract guaranteed contract.
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give up the best training,coaching and development in football?
Not sure what you think is going on, but they are not trying to hire players to go out on a park field to play yard ball.
They hired coaches and trainers... just like colleges do.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:24 am to Farmer1906
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Obviously, this is going to hurt CFB which in turn hurts me as a fan
Would it even? I don't really watch CFB for the players. I don't think most people that love CFB do.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:25 am to Jjdoc
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We will pay for your college and you get a salary and then enter the draft"
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"Players will receive a salary, benefits, and even paid tuition and books for one year at community college,"
So these guys are gonna forgo the best coaching,training,tudoring and development in football for a non guaranteed contract and community college?
Would if the get cut from the team?
What happens next?
Once again,where you getting 500K to 1.5 million figure?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:31 am to RD Dawg
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Where are you getting this information? The AAF max is 250K and XFL average salary is 75k and ALL are non guaranteed.
We are not talking about the AAF nor the XFL. This is the PPFL....
To quote the people behind it:
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Adidas is one of our founding sponsors, and I think they might want to make him an endorsement proposal.
That has nothing to do with a salary by the teams.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:32 am to Jjdoc
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Tom Brady's Agent offers Trevor Lawrence a Pro Contract with Adidas endorsement
If he accepts, it will make him ineligible at Clemson, right?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:34 am to themicah85
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Im assuming if they dont make it and their is no coming back to be a scholarship athlete unless its in another sport?
That's right. It's a bust if they don't go pro.
Let's look at a different angle. The 5 stars and upper 4 stars won't all bolt for that. The lower 4 stars and upper 3 may.
That puts a huge gap between the Bamas and hawgs of the NCAA.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:34 am to Jjdoc
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Adidas doesn't have money? They don't make money from TV contracts? etc??
Of course they have money and they didn't make it by losing millions.
Money from TV contracts?I'm talking about this new league having a TV contract.
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And endorsement and a contract guaranteed contract.
The AAF and XFL are not offering guaranteed contracts and NFL rarely does.Where did you read/hear this?
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but they are not trying to hire players to go out on a park field to play yard ball.
There's 4 teams.
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They hired coaches and trainers... just like colleges do.
OC's and DC's in CFB are now making 7 figures and posistion coaches are making mid 6 figures.Where exactly are the best coaches going to gravitate to?
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:40 am to Jjdoc
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Our player population, for example, will be players such as Trevor Lawrence at Clemson
So your player profile is the best underclassman in college football, I am shocked. Trevor Lawrence may get paid a ton of money to play in this league but they aren't paying regular guys anywhere near 500k. He also says players could market themselves but they are only marketable because they play on ESPN and compete against the best. Who wants a buy a PPFL Lawrence jersey after watching him on a random network throw for 800 yards against scrubs.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:41 am to Jjdoc
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This is the PPFL....
WGAS?The AAF already rosters,sponsers aND stadiums.
The PPFL has a grand total of 4 teams
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Adidas is one of our founding sponsors, and I think they might want to make him an endorsement proposal.
Still didn't answer the question.Where are you getting this 500K to 1.5 figure?
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That has nothing to do with a salary by the teams.
Huh?Labor costs have nothing to do with the viability of a business?That's a new one.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:49 am to Mr.Sinister
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So are they trying to be an official farm league for the NFL and bypass the college ranks, or are they hoping to supplant the league altogether.
The first is viable, the latter won't happen.
I hope it fails to be honest.
I see it as only a few 5 stars who may not be eligible go there. Maybe some 4 stars. But I see a ton of 3 stars and lower 4s going. That hurts the NCAA drastically.
More over, I see it KILLING JUCO.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:06 am to Jjdoc
FYI from Wikipedia
CFB players already make almost half that in stipend payments and it's probably peanuts compared to what some are getting under the table.
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thus focused on high school graduates not going to college nor out of school for over three years.[11] Average pay would be $50,000 plus optional community college tuition and books for a year.[11] Benefits would also be a part of compensation, including career-ending injury coverage.
CFB players already make almost half that in stipend payments and it's probably peanuts compared to what some are getting under the table.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:07 am to RD Dawg
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Of course they have money and they didn't make it by losing millions.
Money from TV contracts?I'm talking about this new league having a TV contract.
No, you stated over all money.
Adidas already signed on. They have the backing as of now. It may fall, but that's not certain.
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There's 4 teams.
to start with.
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OC's and DC's in CFB are now making 7 figures and posistion coaches are making mid 6 figures.Where exactly are the best coaches going to gravitate to?
Mike Shanahan stated it will be better training for player than the NCAA.
Again, this will get some traction.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:12 am to Jjdoc
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Mike Shanahan stated it will be better training for player than the NCAA.
Of course he said it.He's on the league board
What do you expect him to say?
And it won't be close to what P5 schools can provide in training
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:16 am to RD Dawg
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The PPFL has a grand total of 4 teams
Again.. for now.
If successful, the other 2 leagues may take notice.
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Still didn't answer the question.Where are you getting this 500K to 1.5 figure?
I did answer. I stated it clearly. They could make people like Trevor millionaires from endorsements.
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Huh?Labor costs have nothing to do with the viability of a business?That's a new one.
Where did I say that? Follow closely.
ENDORSEMENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING WITH A SALARY OFFERED BY THE TEAMS.
YEE.... "Hey Guy about to sign with UGA. Look, I know for a fact that I can get you 500K per year with Adidas (or friggin McDonalds ) while training you to an NFL standard. NFL style practices. They are willing to take this chance because you will make the NFL and they will make a ton. IF you have a career ENDING injury in college.... what do you have? In this league, you have insurance that will pay you for the rest of your life"
That's not a hard sell. 200 players out of the college system will happen right off the bat.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:18 am to Jjdoc
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No, you stated over all money.
Geez
Any successful pro league that's ever existed has a TV contract and there's never been a pro developmental that's ever existed without subsidies from the parent team or league.
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:31 am to Jjdoc
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I did answer. I stated it clearly. They could make people like Trevor millionaires from endorsements.
So you just pulled the figure outta your arse.Its what I
figured.
Of course Lawrence "could" make money from endorsments...the vast,vast majority won't sniff an endorsement deal.
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ENDORSEMENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING WITH A SALARY OFFERED BY THE TEAMS
Beyond Lawrence and a very few others who in the hell would be lining up to give these kids endorsement deals
who play in a league with 4 teams with no TV contract?
And IF they ever get a TV deal their ratings would be beyond miniscule.
Beyond laughable to think more than 5 to 10 players get
any type of viable endorsement money.
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