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re: This is why I just can't believe we're only here by chance

Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:29 pm to
When I was born?

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Posted by Stacked
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:30 pm to
Right now. Whether they've passed away or not. How many great grandparents did you have?
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:30 pm to
You're being very non sympathetic to the billions of unborn ghosts that could have been your relatives.
Posted by Cmlsu5618
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:31 pm to
That's my point. What about them? Do the unborn not get a say in this?
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:32 pm to
The same number as you. They could also be the same as your great grandparents and I'm still failing to see how you are so mystified by this.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

That's correct, the more unlikely something becomes the more unlikely I view it to be chance.


This is the heart of Intelligent Design.

quote:

If I hit a jackpot on a slot machine in Vegas 100 times in a row I would start to believe something was up. I couldn't comprehend that happening naturally so I would assume someone had control of the situation.


But that's not even related to what you said above. You're making me crazy.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:33 pm to
That's actually not hard for me to comprehend.

The hard part is comprehending how everything works in balance so perfectly. How the earth managed to be perfectly in orbit at the right spot to sustain life, how the earth repairs itself, how the living organisms live in a never ending cycle of balance. How Humans somehow are superior to all other animals...our emotions, thought processes, everything. It's all so divine that the odds of such things being created by chance are so great one can't possible comprehend that it could happen.

Sure we can do a scientific experiment, causing the right matter to react with one another in a chemical reaction and a simple life form can result of it. But that doesn't prove anything...because if that life form were to evolve into a complex life form capable of thought processes, then we would be it's Creator, it didn't happen by chance.

There is a Creator. We may not have all the answers, hell every religion could technically be wrong, but I damn sure don't believe we came into existence by chance. Even if the Big Bang Theory were correct, you still have to ask "how did the matter get there in the first place". We will likely never know, at least not until maybe after we die if there is in fact an afterlife.
Posted by Stacked
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:35 pm to
Slope, what I'm showing you is you're wrong about this comment.

"You only have two sets of grandparents at one time. That giant number is useless.'

Your parents each have two parents. Those are your two sets of grandparents. Each of them had two parents. Those are your four sets of great grandparents. Each of them had two parents. Those are your eight sets of Great Great grandparents... And so on...

Despite you believing you only have "two grandparents at one time", you're simply wrong. You had 16,384 sets of Great (x15) Grandparents. If any one of them during that one generation had fricked one thing up you wouldn't be here to be wrong about this.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:37 pm to
Wow, had no idea you were spiritual.
Posted by Stacked
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:37 pm to
The size of space blows my fricking mind. It's just ridiculous.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:40 pm to
Have you compared your calculations of how many grandparents there are in 400 generations to how many humans were actually on the planet 10,000 years ago?
Posted by Stacked
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

Have you compared your calculations of how many grandparents there are in 400 generations to how many humans were actually on the planet 10,000 years ago?



Yes, that's why I said...

"For the record,
400 generations ago we had 2.58224987808691E+120 grandparents.

That's in exponential form, meaning move the decimal 120 places to the right.

Now obviously there wasn't that many people on earth at that time so it's not that easy to explain. But that doesn't change that there are a vast and endless, billions among billions of variables that make the chance of us managing to be born incalculable."
Posted by Cmlsu5618
Destin, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

The hard part is comprehending how everything works in balance so perfectly.


Your stupidity is showing.

If it wasn't in balance then we wouldn't be here! Balance is the typical natural order. Excluding unstable environments like black holes, etc..

Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:55 pm to
Explain the Platypus




Explain the platypus pups in fedoras


Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:00 pm to
The platypus is the only venomous mammal.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:04 pm to
Doesn't it also lay eggs?



That's God telling Darwin "what now, motherfricker? "
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:06 pm to
What's circular reasoning about what I'm saying?

all I've said is I'm unable to comprehend something. I've got no damn Idea if God is real or not, all I've talked about is the numbers and likelihood of chance, I simply don't have the capacity to understand it all.

Circular reasoning implies I have answers or at least think I do. I'm talking about the absence of understanding.

At any rate, I guess I should have assumed the chances of this staying a numbers thread instead of a bible thread was slim. Especially since my title insinuated intelligent design, which wasn't my intention. lol.

don't let me drive you nuts, you're good people.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:06 pm to
So lots of cousin humping and inbreeding is how we've arrived to this point.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:07 pm to
Or like "How now, brown cow" being taught in an elocution class.
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