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Posted on 5/6/18 at 8:37 am to dcbl
Posted on 5/6/18 at 8:37 am to dcbl
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Trump's deregulations are the primary reason the economy is going so much better
To be fair, most presidential policy is not felt immediately and may take several election cycles to kick in. Reagan was successful because the debt he swelled with excessive government spending did not catch up to the country till the Bush administration. George Sr was probably a better president than RR but he could not overcome RR's debt load which allowed Clinton to deny Sr his second term.
Bush Jr was probably our worst POTUS in our lifetime but the damage his policies created did not catch up to us till he was already on his way out of office. The DOW is already off 2,000 points since the beginning of the year so not sure I would say our current POTUS is exactly getting the job done in overall confidence in his ability to lead.
Personally, outside of Jimmy Carter, I feel certain no president in my lifetime has felt the moral obligation to actually honor his marriage commitments. While I personally believe our POTUS should have better moral standards at least Bill was more American in his sexual choices (he banged the heavy ones and the not so attractive ones with equal enthusiasm) while Trump seems limited to just trophy type women who do not look as good without makeup and do not always age well.
The problem with the current POTUS is paying women for sex and the general trashiness of his choices in porn stars and such. As least past presidents have had a better class of side pieces and they were more discreet in their affairs. With the rise of folks like Hilton and the Kardashians we have just nosedived to a trashier society overall by accepting worse behavior. it is like we are racing to the lowest common denominator where in the end, nobody will win.
The bigger point, often over shouted by the far left and far right is this....
US population is between 300 and 350 million people, yet the choices were limited to...
Bush Jr or Kerry (both were Skull and Bones @ Yale)
and
Hillary or Donald (two folks I would not piss on if they were on fire)
As citizens of the real American we need to demand better choices in the first place than argue about how crappy the other sides candidate is. I am old and will not live to see the eventual downfall but I can assure you it is comping if you continue to accept mediocre over great.
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 8:52 am to Cheese Grits
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To be fair, most presidential policy is not felt immediately and may take several election cycles to kick in
I understand, and you are correct about this
BUT - we are now a net exporter of energy - that is 100% due to Trump and deregulation
also, consumer confidence is soaring, also due to Trump creating a more business friendly environment AND the effects of the tax cuts (more people have more money and feel better about their situation)
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Bush Jr was probably our worst POTUS in our lifetime but the damage his policies created did not catch up to us till he was already on his way out of office. The DOW is already off 2,000 points since the beginning of the year so not sure I would say our current POTUS is exactly getting the job done in overall confidence in his ability to lead.
Bush Jr was bad, Carter, Obama, Johnson & Nixon were all worse IMO
a 2000 point correction after a 10,00 point jump? I have a hard time agreeing with your assessment, but it is too early to say
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Personally, outside of Jimmy Carter, I feel certain no president in my lifetime has felt the moral obligation to actually honor his marriage commitments.
Carter, who I hate as a politician, is clearly an honorable man and is easily the most intelligent president from our lifetime (poor leader though)
he deserves all the accolades he gets for his integrity as a man and his work in the private sector to make people's lives better
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The problem with the current POTUS is paying women for sex and the general trashiness of his choices in porn stars and such. As least past presidents have had a better class of side pieces and they were more discreet in their affairs.
gotta disagree here as well; his discretion has been the same; but there is a concerted effort to get him by our media
Media was well aware of Kennedy and Clinton's indiscretions - they ignored it with Kennedy & covered up and made excuses for Clinton - with Trump; it is open season on "how do we bring him down"
Posted on 5/6/18 at 8:56 am to Cheese Grits
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As citizens of the real American we need to demand better choices in the first place than argue about how crappy the other sides candidate is. I am old and will not live to see the eventual downfall but I can assure you it is comping if you continue to accept mediocre over great.
and I agree 100% on this point
Trump is shaking things up - I was a reluctant voter/supporter of him AFTER he won the R primary (was against him early on - my post history on PT is proof of this)
However, I have been happily surprised by how he has governed
his SCOTUS nomination assured my being pleased with him (that was my biggest issue)
his travel ban, tax cuts and deregulation efforts have won me over as a fervent supporter and fan
Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:19 am to Cheese Grits
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Hillary or Donald (two folks I would not piss on if they were on fire)
For the first time in my life the line from LoTR really hit home... "How did it come to this?"
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to accept mediocre over great.
I'd be thrilled to death to have a mediocre President run. It would be an improvement. Bush the Lesser was a disaster who wasn't ready to be be President... until he was just about to leave the office. Obama is probably going to be less then fondly remembered by future generations for his abysmal foreign policy decisions. Trump is... Trump.
Mediocre right now sounds like a shining beacon of hope.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:24 am to dcbl
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Bush Jr was bad, Carter, Obama, Johnson & Nixon were all worse IMO
While I may be in the minority, I was a fan of Nixon. While the Watergate breaking was not good it often overshadowed that is was Nixon (in a single election cycle no less) who got both the Red Russians and the Red Chinese to the peace table and was the real catalyst in reducing the Cold War that RR took credit for.
As I was a voter for both Nixon and Carter and lived through their administrations I can tell you they were similar in both were "outsiders" to politics as usual in and around DC. In their own unique ways they were actually enabling policies that would actually be good for the American people at the expense of those in power at the time. It is interesting that both have been so poorly remembered by history.
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BUT - we are now a net exporter of energy - that is 100% due to Trump and deregulation
You do realize we would have been here 30 years earlier if Carter's energy policy of replacing oil with solar and wind had not been killed when RR took office? Our non petroleum R&D would have been decades more advanced by now. Just imagine where we could be right now.
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consumer confidence is soaring, also due to Trump creating a more business friendly environment AND the effects of the tax cuts
Short term boost but as a taxpayer mine went up and the business is less friendly to the small startups that will foster growth in the future. The beneficiaries were the biggest businesses and the most wealthy who least need the economic boost. Bigger issue is the Republicans have been raising donor money since WWII on the platform of eliminating the "death tax" yet they have control of the White House, the Court, and Congress yet still have not accomplished a promise made to their own party for over half a century.
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Media was well aware of Kennedy and Clinton's indiscretions
As were they aware of indiscretions of Bush, Nixon, and Reagan but they were even more discreet about them.
Look, I am not saying any of them were perfect but at least all of them picked a better class of women to screw around with. My problem with the parties is how they deal with this. If you are going to claim the moral high ground - as the far right wants to claim - then you need to back your words with actual practice. If the (R)'s want to claim moral superiority then they need to hold their own's feet to the fire if they break this implied contract. Failing to do so is just hypocrisy and is a slap in the face to the (R)'s that came before them like my grandparents who would have taken principle over party and never voted for Trump.
Unlike many on here, I will call out the failings of both parties as things need to change or we are done. Continuing to reward mediocrity by attacking the other side is an assured way to make our new Chinese overlords the rulers of the America's over our own people.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:37 am to Cheese Grits
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Unlike many on here, I will call out the failings of both parties as things need to change or we are done. Continuing to reward mediocrity by attacking the other side is an assured way to make our new Chinese overlords the rulers of the America's over our own people.
I am happy to call out both sides - please note that I threw Nixon & W in the "worst" category, but did not throw Clinton in that mix
I actually think Clinton was a good POTUS (he has moved sharply to left since he left office)
I also agree that Nixon did a lot of good things; but being forced from office has to put him in the mix for being bad - not as bad as Obama, but bad
I am super pleased with Trump, as I said earlier. And I came in expecting to be disappointed
my list (excluding Trump) for my lifetime:
Reagan
Bush Sr
Clinton
Bush Jr
Nixon
Carter
Ford
Johnson
Obama
I could swap Obama and Johnson though...
Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:11 am to beatbammer
This thread started out with a volleyball player’s arse pics and you left wing idiots have turned it into a bash Trump thread.
Typical. You morons could ruin a wet dream. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real. Keep that shite on the poliboard.
Typical. You morons could ruin a wet dream. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real. Keep that shite on the poliboard.
This post was edited on 5/6/18 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:44 pm to DownSouthJukin
frick off
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:48 pm to TT9
TT9's TDS has lead to IBS
Posted on 5/6/18 at 1:39 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Meet
Posted on 5/6/18 at 1:47 pm to TT9
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frick off
Again, typical.
Why don’t you post your Trump hate on the Poliboard? Do your feels gets hurts when you get called out?
Posted on 5/6/18 at 2:10 pm to TT9
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Meet
did you just misspell "melt"
Posted on 5/6/18 at 2:17 pm to dcbl
He knows what I mean.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 2:30 pm to dcbl
In my lifetime Grant was the worst. ;)
Since WWII my worst has been George Jr but Trump may be joining him before he leaves office.
Nixon and Carter are possibly my favorites but for being on the opposite sides of what a president should be, but still with the long term view of what really does make the USA better. Most of the rest have their good and bad points. It is funny that Ford was the only state school president we had since WWII and he was appointed, not elected which has always stuck me as odd.
On a side note, I was picking up some asian take out and had to wait about 15 min till my order was ready. The Indian folks (dot not feather) sitting next to me were talking about todays news cycle and said there was an article about Kim Jong Un today blasting Trump for trying to take credit when no such credit was due. Have not been able to see what they were reading but sounding like it was in their news feed for today.
Will try and link if I can find it later.
Since WWII my worst has been George Jr but Trump may be joining him before he leaves office.
Nixon and Carter are possibly my favorites but for being on the opposite sides of what a president should be, but still with the long term view of what really does make the USA better. Most of the rest have their good and bad points. It is funny that Ford was the only state school president we had since WWII and he was appointed, not elected which has always stuck me as odd.
On a side note, I was picking up some asian take out and had to wait about 15 min till my order was ready. The Indian folks (dot not feather) sitting next to me were talking about todays news cycle and said there was an article about Kim Jong Un today blasting Trump for trying to take credit when no such credit was due. Have not been able to see what they were reading but sounding like it was in their news feed for today.
Will try and link if I can find it later.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 3:48 pm to TT9
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Meet
Can't today, busy
Posted on 5/6/18 at 4:03 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Why do I sound poor?
Post your annual income and I will do the same. Seriously.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 7:00 pm to Jazzbo Depew
Tree Fiddy?
Posted on 5/6/18 at 7:02 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Can't today, scared
Posted on 5/6/18 at 7:49 pm to TT9
The greatest disservice to mankind is arguing over what the greatest disservice to mankind is on a message board.
Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:49 am to Arksulli
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line from LoTR
Life of Teddy Roosevelt?
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