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Temporary employment agencies really grind my gears.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 10/28/16 at 2:09 pm
shite should be shut the frick down. It isn't right and it is ethically wrong. I am fortunate to have an education and a great job but there are a lot of Americans that are getting fricked by these practices. I put em in the same line as payday loans. It's time for change.
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 2:28 pm to sunseeker
Why? My company uses a temp agency to expand for Q4 in data entry type roles. If they impress, they have a chance at getting a long term position.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 3:08 pm to sunseeker
How are they getting fricked? Our district uses a temp agency to supply nurses when we have a shortage. They're solid.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 5:08 pm to sunseeker
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It's time for change.
Things Change of course, but I worked for them, Manpower, back in the late 60's before going into Military Service, earned money, did not have to lie to an employer about how long I was staying and the real bonus, I got to do some jobs I normally would not have gottent to do some very interesting.
Give more details it there is a down side I am missing.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 5:11 pm to sunseeker
Temp agencies are a very efficient model for filling a need for temporarily expanded employment. How is this a problem?
Posted on 10/28/16 at 7:05 pm to Mulat
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Give more details it there is a down side I am missing.
The temp agency charges twice if not more than what they pay you, I guess.
I use temps everyday. Everyone knows how much they are getting paid to do all the crap work that I don't want to do.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 7:46 pm to JamalSanders
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The temp agency charges twice if not more than what they pay you, I guess.
Still don't see how that could be an issue. Employment is a voluntary thing.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 4:59 am to Evolved Simian
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Still don't see how that could be an issue. Employment is a voluntary thing.
Right, and finding employees isn't as easy/cheap as it might seem
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:30 am to The Sultan of Swine
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Right, and finding employees isn't as easy/cheap as it might seem
Exactly. A temp agency is easier to use when you need temporary employees, plus the employees get the benefit of being able to obtain multiple temp jobs, without having to go through multiple application and hiring processes.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:32 am to sunseeker
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shite should be shut the frick down
Boo to you.
My wife has worked for one for 17 years. Her company does really well. She gets monthly (pretty big) bonuses.
She works her arse off to find people that qualify for the different jobs she has to fill. It's not easy to find good people (people that don't have felonies). They have to spend the money to drug screen and background check these people. Most fail one or both. That's money out the window.
Most companies will hire permanent if the employee is good enough. I don't see anything wrong with it at all.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:46 am to sunseeker
I have a construction client who has seen significant growth due to winning a job for google fiber. They can not hire folks outright as the amount of work available is dependent on many factors. They utilize a temp agency and it works out for them great.
Now I will say that the employees are underpaid.
Now I will say that the employees are underpaid.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:15 am to cas4t
And I imagine it depends on the agency. There's a couple here that are awful. But they also work with some shitty companies who don't pay much whether it's through a temp or not.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:29 am to sunseeker
the recruiters are some lazy shite heads. They keep bringing me crap things like would this interest you and I'm like no I told you that wouldn't so don't waste my time.
People are much better off if they just learn how to use google and linkedin. A email reaching out on your own looks so much better than depending on someone trying to place you into a job.
People are much better off if they just learn how to use google and linkedin. A email reaching out on your own looks so much better than depending on someone trying to place you into a job.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:33 am to BluegrassBelle
Robert Half is pretty bad about taking shitty clients and then trying to sell you on those jobs. I just have to laugh, I'm like I'm not going to take an accounts payable job because i have a real degree from a actual university. I also graduated Summa Cum Laude, so no I'm not interested in 16 dollars an hour 
I got to the point where I've told them email me if you have something for over 50k a year. I want to tell them they would have better luck going after a c level student and trying to sell them on the experience hook.
Other firms that are more specialized do actually have better jobs.
I got to the point where I've told them email me if you have something for over 50k a year. I want to tell them they would have better luck going after a c level student and trying to sell them on the experience hook. Other firms that are more specialized do actually have better jobs.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:26 pm to Evolved Simian
It has become a cover-op to avoid paying health insurance and other benefits. Companies set such an unreal amount of time before a person is offered permanent placement that they will just cut people 5 months and 29 days into their employment and take another newbie. Drives wages and benefits down and there is no legal recourse for the employee.
Just my .02 - and yes, I realize that means nothing here
Just my .02 - and yes, I realize that means nothing here
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:49 pm to Pinche Cabron
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Companies set such an unreal amount of time before a person is offered permanent placement that they will just cut people 5 months and 29 days into their employment and take another newbie.
I'm calling bullshite on that. If I've kept a temp that long, that means it's become permanent position, and I'll be damned if I'm going to waste the time of my staff training another 6 month employee.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:59 pm to Evolved Simian
I don't care if you call it or not. Factories here will tell temps they have to work 6 months before they are eligible for permanent status - because they can
Posted on 10/29/16 at 2:00 pm to Pinche Cabron
Additionally, companies (even government agencies) use the "contractor" label to get around providing health insurance for their people
Posted on 10/29/16 at 4:31 pm to Pinche Cabron
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Additionally, companies (even government agencies) use the "contractor" label to get around providing health insurance for their people
Contractor isn't a label, it is clearly differentiated from statutory employee by labor law. Any company violating it to avoid payment of overtime, etc. is subject to corrective action and serious fines.
If you are actually aware of this going on, I suggest you pursue legal action to remedy it. The courts don't play with DOL Wage and Hour violations.
ETA - The IRS also frowns pretty heavily on classifying employees as contractors.
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Posted on 10/29/16 at 5:03 pm to Evolved Simian
I work for the EPA. It happens on a broad scale in the EPA with contracted inspectors - which I was one for years.
Anyway... there is a factory in my town that specializes in hiring low-skill employees, hundreds of them, through a temp service. It's a great opportunity for people with no education to get a steady job. But the practice I described of keeping temps on for 6 , 8, 10 months without hiring them - happens every day. They will tell people that they have the potential of being hired on. Then they will tell the temps, 'we only need 5 permanent employees right now." They receive zero benefits (unless they pay their own insurance - which is an unreasonable expectation for someone making 9.40 an hour.) If there are any issues with these temps, like call-outs, they cut them without any recourse.
It is sad to see people abused by a company because they can't do much better than McDonald's or WalMart
Anyway... there is a factory in my town that specializes in hiring low-skill employees, hundreds of them, through a temp service. It's a great opportunity for people with no education to get a steady job. But the practice I described of keeping temps on for 6 , 8, 10 months without hiring them - happens every day. They will tell people that they have the potential of being hired on. Then they will tell the temps, 'we only need 5 permanent employees right now." They receive zero benefits (unless they pay their own insurance - which is an unreasonable expectation for someone making 9.40 an hour.) If there are any issues with these temps, like call-outs, they cut them without any recourse.
It is sad to see people abused by a company because they can't do much better than McDonald's or WalMart
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