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Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Some of you are just completely ignorant of American history.



It is astounding really. Most everyone here seems pretty well educated.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Incorrect


Correct

LINK
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:27 pm to
That's your source?






This is my source

LINK



quit being so fricking racist.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:27 pm to
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When you use it to describe an outspoken black person, yes it is a racist term.


Incorrect

The term means "self-important," or "arrogant." Do you see anything about race in there?

No, you don't.

quote:

I'm honestly really surprised that so many of you didn't know this.


White people can be uppity. Black people can be uppity. Martians can be uppity. The Na'vi can be uppity.

If you automatically think that it's racist because the uppity individual in question happens to be black, then YOU are the one viewing things through an overly racial prism.

quote:

I'm honestly really surprised that so many of you didn't know this.


I'm honestly surprised that you're the one taking umbrage to this while the black guy is wondering what the problem is

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:27 pm to
Did it ever don on either of you that people do know it was used at one point to describe African-Americans who didn't "know their place" but are "educated enough" to know that it no longer carries that connotation for most people?

Congrats on having a sense of vocabulary and usage that hasn't developed since the 60s.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 4:28 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:27 pm to
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If you automatically think that it's racist because the uppity individual in question happens to be black, then YOU are the one viewing things through an overly racial prism.



...which makes stonehog racist.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:28 pm to
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Correct

LINK


INcorrect.

Saying "uppity n_____" is racist.

Saying "uppity" is not racist.

The Wire is incorrect.
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:29 pm to
frick her and all who are like her. If you don't like it here get the frick out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Some of you are just completely ignorant of American history.



It is astounding really. Most everyone here seems pretty well educated.


Everyone understands the historical context, but that context disappeared a when segregation ended. It's a universal term today.

Living in the past is why some people are so fricked up.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:31 pm to
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The term means "self-important," or "arrogant." Do you see anything about race in there?


Oh my god.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:32 pm to
Ok, you gotta be trolling.

Please tell me you're trolling. You got me. I admit it. I bit.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:32 pm to
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If you automatically think that it's racist because the uppity individual in question happens to be black, then YOU are the one viewing things through an overly racial prism.



...which makes stonehog racist.


He seems to be doing a lot of projecting here.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:33 pm to
Dude, educate us. Don't be so niggardly with that wealth of knowledge.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:33 pm to
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Everyone understands the historical context


Not the people in this thread. I've had to spell it out to all these ignorant asses for several pages now.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:33 pm to
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n*ggardly


My favorite word isn't censored anymore!!!

ETA: Spoke too soon
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by guschamp84
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:34 pm to
How is this person a featured speaker for anything?

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:35 pm to
If you think everyone's an ignorant arse, chances are el burro es usted, ol' sport
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:35 pm to
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it no longer carries that connotation for most people?



Then those people are ignorant. Obviously the word itself holds no racist connotations, but just because you don't understand the historical connotations to it, it doesn't remove those connotations. And it depends on the context of its use. There's going to be some backlash when black people are referred to as "uppity", like Rush Limbaugh did to Michelle Obama. Or the US Rep(forget his name) that used it to describe Barack Obama when he was running for President.

Nobody uses "sambo" as a racist term anymore, but if someone were to use it in reference to a black man, does that remove the racist connotations of the word from decades ago? Of course not.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:36 pm to
Several people in this thread didn't know the history of the word, so yeah that's pretty ignorant.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

it no longer carries that connotation for most people?



Then those people are ignorant. Obviously the word itself holds no racist connotatiions, but just because you don't understand the historical connotations to it, it doesn't remove those connotatons.


Jesus christ...

What does gay mean to you? Years ago it meant happy, now it has a whole different connotation. Which connotation is relevant today?
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