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re: So, El Chapo had a Fast and Furious .50 cal rifle when he was arrested
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:24 am to Alahunter
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:24 am to Alahunter
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wth does that have to do with this? This is about firearms being sold to criminals, on AMERICAN SOIL. And the subsequent cover up by the CURRENT President and his administration. Are you really going to... But, but .. Reagan?
OH excuse me. It's different because it wasn't in the USA. IT WAS STILL THE U.S government. No guns were sold here. The guns went to another country the cocaine was sold HERE.
All I'm saying is people need to stop with the fake outrage. There have been worse things done by the U.S government that backfired some caused thousands of deaths but ppl want to bitch over ONE border patrol agent and a Mexican drug lord
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:38 am to CarolinaCock
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ONE border patrol agent
The fact that you think this is the only murder directly linked to a fast and furious weapon shows how little you know about the subject.
Congrats on outing yourself as nothing more than an Obama administration apologist.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:41 am to JustGetItRight
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Congrats on outing yourself as nothing more than an Obama administration apologist.
BOOM
And a weak-arse one at that.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 9:08 am to Mizzou Mule
Let me save you guys a lot of time, an Obama supporter doesn't give one fat shite whether he or anyone in his administration broke the law. EVERYTHING he does and says is the only right answer or thing to do and damn to hell anyone that says differently (because you're just a racist anyway).
An Obama supporter would follow him even if he decided to invade hell.
An Obama supporter would follow him even if he decided to invade hell.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:06 am to bamarep
People like that, would support and fight for brain eating zombies in a zombie apocalypse.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 10:14 am to scrooster
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1 - We were funding the Contras in an effort to defeat the communist Sandinista rebels.
Well, they was the official line.
We were fighting to protect Carl Linder's fruit monopoly and property. English did the same thing in South Africa to protect the diamond mine monopoly for the DeBeers family.
History is full of these wars /police actions to protect a personal financial interest on the military resources of an alpha nation. If the folks were at least grateful and cut the cost of diamonds or bananas it would not be so bad.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:57 pm to Cheese Grits
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The Justice Department is still withholding thousands of documents. The thousands of documents provided are often heavily redacted. A review of hundreds of pages so far has revealed no obvious, legitimate basis under which President Obama should have invoked executive privilege, as he did, to withhold them public from congressional subpoena and other public reviews.
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•ATF’s internal Public Affairs Talking Points show the agency was using Fast and Furious to help justify new gun control regulations–without telling the public that ATF was actually facilitating the delivery of weapons to Mexican drug cartels.•The talking points (p. 15) state:
“These cases demonstrate the ongoing trafficking of firearms by Mexican DTO’s and other associated groups operating in Arizona and the need for reporting of multiple sales for certain types of rifles in order to ferret out those intent on providing firearms to these criminal groups.”
This is why, frick any new gun control
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:21 pm to bamarep
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n Obama supporter doesn't give one fat shite whether he or anyone in his administration broke the law.
Alright, alright, alright. Enough. No more.
I'm not a President Obama supporter by any means, but HOLY shite, THE ADMINISTRATION BROKE THE LAW?
This circle-jerk has gone on long enough. Yes, the administration is dirty.
Government is dirty business, period. President Bush, President Obama, President Washington -- politics in general does this kind of shite. I'm not sure what you guys want, a government who doesn't play dirty? Well frick you and your spineless crew.
Furthermore, this kind of stuff HAS been happening for a while, and the weapons were going to be here anyway. From our administration, from China or even from Africa, they're all shipping weapons here. It failed, they didn't trace their weapons well enough, but this "Oh man, President Obama *snigger*, he's such a bad guy, look what he's done!11!11!", is getting old.
All administrations are dirty, all governments are dirty, all politicians are dirty. Stop pretending to be so sanctimonious and naive already.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I'm not sure what you guys want, a government who doesn't play dirty? Well frick you and your spineless crew.
How about one that doesn't break the law so it can violate our Constitutional Rights, and in the process, be responsible for 43 deaths, including Mexico's State Atty Gen's brother and numerous other injuries. And responsible for over 1500 firearms, still.. in criminal hands. Not an army fighting for our interests or rebel fighters that will serve our interests. Criminals. So that they could infringe on our rights. Solely for that reason.
frick Obama and his administration and read the post above. ATF documents state they did it to implement gun control aka infringe on the 2nd Amendment.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:27 pm to Alahunter
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How about one that doesn't break the law so it can violate our Constitutional Rights, and in the process, be responsible for 43 deaths, including Mexico's State Atty Gen's brother and numerous other injuries.
frick Obama and his administration and read the post above. ATF documents state they did it to implement gun control aka infringe on the 2nd Amendment.
You mean like the Patriot Act? You mean like the NSA spy program? You mean like the Assault Weapon ban? The list goes on forever and it predates President Obama.
Good luck in finding your state with NO dirt on its hands. You're all sheep.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I don't like any of those. And bitch about them too.
This admin is straight up lying still, covering up still and having fricking town halls saying they don't won't to take anyone's guns. Well, guess the frick what? Here's just more proof that they are. Dunno why you feel the need to bitch at folks bringing it to light and posting it. Especially when you choose to live in Mexico instead of here.
This admin is straight up lying still, covering up still and having fricking town halls saying they don't won't to take anyone's guns. Well, guess the frick what? Here's just more proof that they are. Dunno why you feel the need to bitch at folks bringing it to light and posting it. Especially when you choose to live in Mexico instead of here.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:42 pm to Alahunter
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This admin is straight up lying still, covering up still and having fricking town halls saying they don't won't to take anyone's guns.
WHAT?
POLITICIANS ARE LYING?
Better call Coast to Coast.
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Especially when you choose to live in Mexico instead of here.
I'm uncertain of how this is pertinent to any conversation about any political problems. My choices to live here have absolutely nothing to do with my opinions on the States, on politicians or really anything regarding this conversation.
I'm just telling you: Politicians lie. They will always lie. There's no reason to pretend like this administration does it more than the ones before it, and the new one.
I would LOVE for our politicians to surrender their rights and be completely transparent. Their browser history, their bank statements, no privacy.
People shouldn't want to be politicians, it shouldn't come with prestige, it should come with sacrifice.
But you're not asking for what I'm asking, you're just going to idly complain on this forum and not do a goddamn thing about it. So why not just stop pretending that this administration is any different from any in the history of man?
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:54 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I have no illusion that all politicians lie.
However.. the current one is the current one and the ones influencing and making rules through executive decisions. Whether it be EO's or placement of Judges or political appointees. And this administration has been harmful to Constitutional Rights and has been abusive to citizens rights. So I'm gonna bitch about it. I'm going to point out some of the retarded things he's done and programs under him that has his hand print on them. Especially on things that affect Constitutional Rights like the 2nd Amendment. Where people are always saying "reasonable gun control" is needed. Using lines he started implementing through hackjobs like Eric Holder. If you don't like it... there are plenty of other threads to partake in and it's very easy to not click on this one.
Because in this one.. I'm going to call Obama and his cronies, pieces of shite. Lying motherfrickers. Wastes of human flesh. I will say that it would not pain me to see him have a stroke and live a long natural life unable to communicate and in constant pain. I hope that karma sees fit to return to him the pain he's inflicted on millions of others with his policies like Obamacare. That it affects his family long term. If you don't wanna hear that.. well.. bye.
However.. the current one is the current one and the ones influencing and making rules through executive decisions. Whether it be EO's or placement of Judges or political appointees. And this administration has been harmful to Constitutional Rights and has been abusive to citizens rights. So I'm gonna bitch about it. I'm going to point out some of the retarded things he's done and programs under him that has his hand print on them. Especially on things that affect Constitutional Rights like the 2nd Amendment. Where people are always saying "reasonable gun control" is needed. Using lines he started implementing through hackjobs like Eric Holder. If you don't like it... there are plenty of other threads to partake in and it's very easy to not click on this one.
Because in this one.. I'm going to call Obama and his cronies, pieces of shite. Lying motherfrickers. Wastes of human flesh. I will say that it would not pain me to see him have a stroke and live a long natural life unable to communicate and in constant pain. I hope that karma sees fit to return to him the pain he's inflicted on millions of others with his policies like Obamacare. That it affects his family long term. If you don't wanna hear that.. well.. bye.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 5:59 pm to Alahunter
Looks like Obama's gun control priorities are about as fricked up as the rest of his idiotic measures.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:41 pm to Alahunter
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Because in this one.. I'm going to call politicians and their cronies, pieces of shite. Lying motherfrickers.
Same thing. But you just single out President Obama.
Good luck being enlightened.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:45 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Well.. he's sorta in charge and calling the shots right now.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:46 pm to Alahunter
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Well.. he's sorta in charge and calling the shots right now.
That you think the President is calling the shots exposes just how little you know about not just American politics, but politics in general.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:48 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Who appoints the head of the ATF/Homeland Security/FBI/Attorney frickin General? Who's influence is felt in those departments when a President is in office?
Jesus guy. You been in the land of taco's too long.
Jesus guy. You been in the land of taco's too long.
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:53 pm to Alahunter
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Who appoints the head of the ATF/Homeland Security/FBI/Attorney frickin General? Who's influence is felt in those departments when a President is in office?
Jesus guy. You been in the land of taco's too long.
https://www.debate.org/debates/The-role-of-the-U.S-President-is-just-a-figure-head-postion/1/
Duh. Seriously, you've been in the land of "Uncle Jimmy told me that Obammer done took ur guns" too long.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 6:55 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If you can't understand that politically appointed positions don't bend to the will of the person who gave them their job.. well then.. frick.. You're right where you belong down there.
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