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Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:25 am to Smokeyone
It's bullshite
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:28 am to Cobb Dawg
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People in NY die every day. Lots. But there are no future federal funds for people who die of natural causes
Here is where you are making your mistake, and its a common one. Probable and confirmed. Let me explain those two terms to you.
If NYC, or anywhere else, tested someone for the 'rona virus, they were positive, and then they keel over. That is a confirmed death. Confirmed : having been rated, verified.
If someone died, before being tested, because we still have a critical shortage of kits and we can't afford to test the dead, and the apparent symptoms matched COVID-19 the coroner will list that as a probable death. Probable: likely to be the case or to happen.
Only confirmed cases get reported to the CDC. Not the probables. That is the case for everywhere in the country. So every case that goes to the Federal government is confirmed with a positive test.
Once again, to help you with these terms... think of it this way. It is confirmed that you had no clue of what you were talking about and only people who were equally clueless agree with you. It is probable that you were too lazy to spend a couple of a minutes doing basic research into this to prove or disprove your theory before you started this silly thread.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:11 am to Arksulli
Why do you feel we have a shortage of kits? For a week now you could drive up to a testing center and get tested at no cost were I am. NYC had enough kits to test zoo animals. The trend is readily available free testing to reassure the public.
The issue with presumptive cases and deaths is 2 fold.
1) single causeability in corona deaths is extremely rare. The overwhelming majority of the deaths have had corona as a contributing factor but not the sole cause. If a person has stage 4 lung cancer, take oxygen, has diabetes, and heart disease they are not long for this world. They simply cannot handle the added burden of an upper respiratory viral infection. Did corona kill them or was it just a contributing factor? My folks live in Georgia and looking at their numbers 20 people without serious underlying health conditions have dead of Corona. 20 directly believed to have died from the virus. But all are being listed solely as corona deaths.
2) The numbers of presumptive cases are not in line with what we are seeing from testing. People seem to forget that there are multiple upper respiratory viral infections still going around that share many of the same symptoms as corona that if untreated can cause death, especially in those with underlying health problems.
The issue with presumptive cases and deaths is 2 fold.
1) single causeability in corona deaths is extremely rare. The overwhelming majority of the deaths have had corona as a contributing factor but not the sole cause. If a person has stage 4 lung cancer, take oxygen, has diabetes, and heart disease they are not long for this world. They simply cannot handle the added burden of an upper respiratory viral infection. Did corona kill them or was it just a contributing factor? My folks live in Georgia and looking at their numbers 20 people without serious underlying health conditions have dead of Corona. 20 directly believed to have died from the virus. But all are being listed solely as corona deaths.
2) The numbers of presumptive cases are not in line with what we are seeing from testing. People seem to forget that there are multiple upper respiratory viral infections still going around that share many of the same symptoms as corona that if untreated can cause death, especially in those with underlying health problems.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:24 pm to Cobb Dawg
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Apparently you know little about NYC. You should travel and read some.
I live here now.
Doesn’t seem socialist at all to me.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:25 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Also i will have to admit, i wouldn’t say the media but I feel like this board and a lot of my college buddies feel like it’s the walking dead up here
It’s not, where I live and my colleagues do we are all fine.
Hospitals are a shite show, but the city isn’t.
Then again I guess I’m in upper class Manhattan. I bet the shitty boroughs or neighborhoods suck. But who the frick wants to go there?
It’s not, where I live and my colleagues do we are all fine.
Hospitals are a shite show, but the city isn’t.
Then again I guess I’m in upper class Manhattan. I bet the shitty boroughs or neighborhoods suck. But who the frick wants to go there?
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:31 pm to Smokeyone
quote:Here in Fayette Co, aka Lexington....similar population size as Knoxville. 197 confirmed cases. Its over 500 in Louisville/Jefferson Co. Every other county in Kentucky is below 100 cases with the vast majority WELL below. 106 deaths attributed to it. This shut down is well past wearing out its welcome. Why are we shut down anymore.
NY Covid-19 Deaths by Smokeyone
Next largest county over Knox county official numbers
Population est 460,932
Confirmed cases 194
Confirmed dead 4
Confirmed recovered 133
Confirmed active cases 57
Why are we closed
Posted on 4/18/20 at 4:21 pm to UKWildcats
3 more reported recovered in knox county. No new cases in knox or blount. No other changes.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 3:21 am to BHMKyle
quote:What a frickin idiot
Contrary to popular belief, metro Los Angeles is actually more densely populated than metro New York.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 8:15 am to UKWildcats
Shutdown needs to end may 1. People who are at risk or concerned need to continue to quarantine. Social distancing does need to remain. No mass gatherings for a while.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 10:42 am to Cobb Dawg
Bottom line, at least 12.5% of the population of New York City has caught COVID-19 and has either recovered or perished. [1] At least half the people who caught it probably didn't realize they had it. [2] This estimate is really close to the 14% rate reported earlier this week by a NYC hospital testing incoming maternity patients. [3]
[1] A 1% overall death rate is expected ("COVID-19 had a death rate around 10x of the common flu"). As of today, 8,700 New Yorkers have perished, therefore an infection rate of around 1.0M, or about 12.5% of the population. The actual rate is probably higher due to deaths indirectly caused by COVID-19 not being included and the city being up to a week behind behind in processing deaths.
[2] LINK (sorry, can't find a free link to the source paper)
[3] LINK
Edit: Updated to use NYC numbers, not NY
[1] A 1% overall death rate is expected ("COVID-19 had a death rate around 10x of the common flu"). As of today, 8,700 New Yorkers have perished, therefore an infection rate of around 1.0M, or about 12.5% of the population. The actual rate is probably higher due to deaths indirectly caused by COVID-19 not being included and the city being up to a week behind behind in processing deaths.
[2] LINK (sorry, can't find a free link to the source paper)
[3] LINK
Edit: Updated to use NYC numbers, not NY
Posted on 4/19/20 at 1:31 pm to Cobb Dawg
quote:i hate reading and travel yet know nyc is run by socialists. A person has to want to see the truth.
. You should travel and read some.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 9:46 pm to djsdawg
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People in NY die every day. Lots.
Dont be an idiot...
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the city of New York police force typically handled around 25 at-home deaths in a normal day. For the past few weeks, they've been dealing with between 200 and 250 at-home deaths every single day.
NY State, which the OP referred to, had 155,191 deaths in 2017, the last year they had good stats. That's 12,933/month. NY is certainly one of the bluest states in the US. It's a rat-infested, old, smelly jungle of humanity that's desperately in need of infrastructure repair. The state can't nearly fund all of the repairs needed so they've tried to tax anything and everything they can in the city to try and come up with the money. This includes the attempt to tax companies who have individuals traveling into the city to do business (look it up). The federal gov't will be declaring certain areas as "super disaster areas" when this is all said and done. Those most impacted will get more federal gov't dollars than the rest. NY is desperate for money and their officials will do anything to ensure that they get those dollars any way they can. Thus the inflated CV-19 death rates. Wait and see.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:50 am to Cobb Dawg
Ignorant post from a UGA fan why am I not surprised. It depresses me that we seemingly have the stupidest posters on TRant whether it be football, coronavirus, or whatever other circlejerk conspiracy the five of you continually dream up.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 6:52 am to Cobb Dawg
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It's a rat-infested, old, smelly jungle of humanity
Queens
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:26 am to Cobb Dawg
Just about every major city is blue with the rural areas being red.
Are you really suggesting that NYC is faking all of this just to get money?
Oh and by the way, Nashville also taxes visitors who come to the city by charging an elevated hotel tax on top of the sales tax. let's not act liken cities collecting money via Tax is some evil plan.
Are you really suggesting that NYC is faking all of this just to get money?
Oh and by the way, Nashville also taxes visitors who come to the city by charging an elevated hotel tax on top of the sales tax. let's not act liken cities collecting money via Tax is some evil plan.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 8:29 am
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:32 am to TacoNash
I’ve been to a lotta blue cities
I was skeptic when moving here. But I’m surprised really, it’s not that liberal (or where I frequent and the people I’m around)
Comparing it to West Coast cities it’s a lot different, Seattle, LA, SF. Those are a different breed of democrat
I was skeptic when moving here. But I’m surprised really, it’s not that liberal (or where I frequent and the people I’m around)
Comparing it to West Coast cities it’s a lot different, Seattle, LA, SF. Those are a different breed of democrat
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:41 am to TacoNash
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Just about every major city is blue with the rural areas being red.
I said NY State
Are you really suggesting that NYC is faking all of this just to get money?
Not all, some. Of course they have CV-19 deaths, but I’m seriously doubting the incredibly high numbers.
Oh and by the way, Nashville also taxes visitors who come to the city by charging an elevated hotel tax on top of the sales tax. let's not act liken cities collecting money via Tax is some evil plan.
Every city has a hotel tax. NYC taxes income from outside companies generated in the city
Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:28 am to Cobb Dawg
Well surely you can provide some actual evidence to support your claims that they are inflating the numbers.
Also can you provide a link to the taxes you are referencing for outside companies? I am genuinely interested in reading about this
Also can you provide a link to the taxes you are referencing for outside companies? I am genuinely interested in reading about this
Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:36 am to TacoNash
Knox county population of 477,000 +1 new case 32 active cases
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