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Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:50 pm to thatguy45
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:50 pm to thatguy45
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Where were you in 2009?
For a week I was in my back yard soaking up sunshine, working and living through the swine flu. It was nice to be away from everyone for a week.
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:50 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
Mass testing is not relevant now that the virus has become widespread in the US. Rather, testing will now be done to determine if someone with symptoms, especially older people, have the virus. Then appropriate symptom treatments can be started.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:54 pm to DownSouthJukin
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I had the swine flu in 2009. Yet here I am
The H1N1 flu virus that you had is a descendant of the novel H1N1 virus that killed 50-100 million people in 1918. A similar novel flu virus today would kill about 600 million people before a vaccine could be designed and ramped up for general distribution.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:18 am to Kentucker
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Mass testing is not relevant now that the virus has become widespread in the US. Rather, testing will now be done to determine if someone with symptoms, especially older people, have the virus. Then appropriate symptom treatments can be started.
SK proves it’s still useful. Helps keep people isolated when they know they are positive and know they have been around positive cases.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:19 am to DownSouthJukin
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From the CDC re swine flu:
You ignored the ?:
Why don’t you trust the epidemiology experts when they say 10x worse than a bad flu season?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:44 am to Slackaveli
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shite, bro, wait until this time next week. We are 8 days behind Italy. They are losing 200+ a day now.
What about South Korea? Why just pick the worst statistical country to try to make a point?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:54 am to Saintsisit
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What about South Korea?
Because our response has been more similar to Italy than SK, which isn’t good news.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:26 am to molardog1
it’s kinda funny and kinda sad in a way, you can pretty much tell which political party someone belongs to by their comments on the corona virus.
WE ALL GONNA DIE - dems
AIN’t SKURRED BREATHE AND SNEEZE ON ME- pubs
As on all the political tests I’ve done, I fall somewhere in the middle.
WE ALL GONNA DIE - dems
AIN’t SKURRED BREATHE AND SNEEZE ON ME- pubs
As on all the political tests I’ve done, I fall somewhere in the middle.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 8:49 am to piggilicious
Well the time to panic is pretty well come and gone. The horse is not only out of the barn he's eating your flowers in the garden and he's already taken a big poo in the drive way.
We have, at this point, no way of telling how many people are actually sick with this thing here in the United States and given how the government is handling things that won't change for a couple of weeks at the earliest.
So. A lot of people are going to get sick and quite a few are going to die. This is bad. But folks have to remember... this is a big country. 15,000 people dying from this would be a tragedy but there are 300 million people in the US.
Treat it serious but its not the end of the world. It is, however, an example of the danger of nickle and diming essential services. The cuts the Trump administration made to the CDC are just a fart in a hurricane compared to the total national debt yet they've come back to bite us at the worst time.
Regardless, it is out there. Republicans screaming to the hills its a hoax and Democrats screaming its the end of the world can all shut their holes thank you. Lets get this situation under control and try to contain the damage. Once that is done everyone can go back to their own virtue signalling.
We have, at this point, no way of telling how many people are actually sick with this thing here in the United States and given how the government is handling things that won't change for a couple of weeks at the earliest.
So. A lot of people are going to get sick and quite a few are going to die. This is bad. But folks have to remember... this is a big country. 15,000 people dying from this would be a tragedy but there are 300 million people in the US.
Treat it serious but its not the end of the world. It is, however, an example of the danger of nickle and diming essential services. The cuts the Trump administration made to the CDC are just a fart in a hurricane compared to the total national debt yet they've come back to bite us at the worst time.
Regardless, it is out there. Republicans screaming to the hills its a hoax and Democrats screaming its the end of the world can all shut their holes thank you. Lets get this situation under control and try to contain the damage. Once that is done everyone can go back to their own virtue signalling.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:27 am to djsdawg
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You ignored the ?:
Why don’t you trust the epidemiology experts when they say 10x worse than a bad flu season?
"Experts"? There is one physician who said this that I have found in a presentation to the AHA.
I didn't ignore it. I'm citing to the last similar viral spread. Those are facts, not opinions. I'll base how I react to this virus on (1) facts, and (2) healthcare professionals that I know and trust who aren't looking to be published.
The facts indicate that this virus effects those who are older and with preexisting immune issues, and not younger adults or children. The facts, based on the swine flu, also indicate that regardless of quarantine measures (there were none in the USA for the swine flu) that this will level off pretty quickly.
The healthcare professionals I know and trust have told me that precautions such as would be undertaken to avoid the seasonal flu are all that we can do to attempt to avoid this coronavirus, and unless I am an older adult with pre-existing health issues, there really is nothing to worry about. So I'm not going to worry about something that, by and large, I cannot do anything about (and even though I am more susceptible to these viruses because of a preexisting lung issue-and I'm even now just getting over the seasonal flu).
Freaking out, stocking up on toilet paper, and spreading fear does nothing to help this issue. Spreading fear that has paralyzed the world economy and our economy is dangerous and an overreaction. Using this disease as a political crutch is disgusting. Doing everything that you would otherwise do to avoid the common flu is about all that we can do.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:45 am to DownSouthJukin
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Experts"? There is one physician who said this that I have found in a presentation to the AHA.
That one is the cream of the crop.
The dr testifying to congress also said the same thing.
Both know a hell of a lot more about this subject than the people you talk to. Choosing to ignore the experts, and listen to your boys, is dangerous, especially considering your preexisting health issues.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/13/20 at 9:49 am to djsdawg
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Both know a hell of a lot more about this subject than the people you talk to. Choosing to ignore the experts, and listen to your boys, is dangerous, especially considering your preexisting health issues.
Nah. "My boys" aren't looking to get on TV or be presented to Congress. I've trusted them for years. I'm not worried.
How about you let me do me and you can handle you? I'll decide for myself what's dangerous, and my family will decide for ourselves what's dangerous.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 3/13/20 at 10:02 am to DownSouthJukin
Don’t mistake those 2 drs expertise on the subject, which leads to visibility, with a lack of credibility on the subject. That makes about zero sense.
Make no mistake, Most family practice or primary care or cardio or pulm drs know very little about this subject.
The less everyone takes this seriously, the bigger the problem is for everyone.
Make no mistake, Most family practice or primary care or cardio or pulm drs know very little about this subject.
The less everyone takes this seriously, the bigger the problem is for everyone.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:45 pm to djsdawg
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SK proves it’s still useful. Helps keep people isolated when they know they are positive and know they have been around positive cases.
SK jumped on the virus quickly and aggressively. They also had plenty of test kits. Yes, their continued use of tests to minimize the spread makes sense.
Ours is a very different situation. Unfortunately, we don’t have many test kits. This allowed the virus to race almost unnoticed all across the country. It’s far too late for test kits to help us contain CV. Instead, they’ll help us determine if the elderly and infirm really have CV and need mitigation of its symptoms or if they’re suffering from something else.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:46 pm to molardog1
The media's sole job is to create viewership by any sensationalism they can muster. And that usually does not include reporting actual news.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:47 pm to Kentucker
That’s true
Posted on 3/13/20 at 2:42 pm to molardog1
Slack will be the first in line to hand over his freedom the first time a true totalitarian asks for it.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 4:00 pm to SoFla Tideroller
You do realize this is a pandemic right?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:42 pm to djsdawg
You do realize it's not a very severe or fatal 'pandemic', don't you?
Posted on 3/14/20 at 6:19 am to SoFla Tideroller
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You do realize it's not a very severe or fatal 'pandemic', don't you?
Maybe compared to the plague.
What about "10x worse than the flu" do you not understand?
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