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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:14 am to MrLarson
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Conditioning, soon you will want big brother to tell you what time to take a shite.
But if Harry Reid doesn't tell me when to poop, how will I know when to poop?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:15 am to Roger Klarvin
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Is there anything funnier than a gun control advocate who doesnt know guns?
yes... and it was the DEA officer shooting himself in the classroom full of school kids a while back... all while touting he was the only one qualified to handle that gun rappers talk about.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:22 am to Vols&Shaft83
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But if Harry Reid doesn't tell me when to poop
Bunch of pussy arse motherfrickers in this country. They would piss their pants if they had to think on their own.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:25 am to 5thTiger
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I could absolutely pick apart your logic...but I won't since this debate is tired. No politician has the balls to propose any gun control legislation. It is political suicide. Probably 99% of politicians are more worried about staying in office or winning election than in passing meaningful legislation.
Knock yourself out. I'm probably more receptive to an opposing opinion than you'd imagine.
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In a hypothetical world where gun control (not ban, control) is passed, the argument has been made that either A. criminals will still get them and people can't defend themselves and B. Stabbings/beatings will increase.
There already are gun control measures in place. The problem is not in enough laws being passed, but that the laws currently on the books aren't enforced.
How about this anchor who illegally purchased a magazine outside of his state and brought it into D.C.
Or the Administration's blatant attempt to promote a culture in which gun bans would be accepted, while threatening peace and stability on our border.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:38 am to wadewilson
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There already are gun control measures in place. The problem is not in enough laws being passed, but that the laws currently on the books aren't enforced.
Obviously there are certain parts of national security and military operations that require the use of "high powered rifles".
As for specifics...The anchor from DC was using it as a journalistic prop to make the point that it is extremely easy to get an illegal firearm currently. The judge didn't want to get wrapped up in a freedom of the press case. Fine line for journalistic integrity for research and blatantly breaking the law.
Operation Fast and Furious is another issue. Pretty stupid idea if you ask me. A calculated risk to capture dangerous people and it backfired. Dumb plan.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:53 am to 5thTiger
Define high powered rifle.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:59 am to wadewilson
I'm not going to get into that. Very complicated and touchy subject. Was simply quoting your articles.
I think any realistic person realizes that the military branches need separate tools and weapons in order to do their jobs effectively.
I think any realistic person realizes that the military branches need separate tools and weapons in order to do their jobs effectively.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:08 am to 5thTiger
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military branches need separate tools and weapons
They already have those. It's called tanks and jets and things like that. Things the general population can't afford to purchase.
Controlling hand held weapons is just being silly. Before you ask, I'm not talking about rocket launchers.
Why would you ever trust the gov't?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:20 am to 5thTiger
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I'm not going to get into that. Very complicated and touchy subject. Was simply quoting your articles.
This is the second time you've refused to harp on a point.
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I think any realistic person realizes that the military branches need separate tools and weapons in order to do their jobs effectively.
You and I may have very different definitions of the word "realistic". Can you offer any examples?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:34 am to wadewilson
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You and I may have very different definitions of the word "realistic". Can you offer any examples?
If you send the Marines into the middle east with a "legal" firearm, and they are getting blown away by Rocket Launchers or whatever... It seems to me that it would be plausible to think that most Americans would be fine if Marines had a rocket launcher of their own to fight back.
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This is the second time you've refused to harp on a point
I'm sorry I don't want to categorize a "high powered rifle" and its potential legality. If I reference an automatic weapon, or semi-auto gun and you provide me with a single example of something that I deem perfectly appropriate, it will create a flaw in my logic and argument. If I were paid, and it was my job to create regulation, I would thoroughly research what could and should be classified as a "high powered rifle." But since it isn't my job, please excuse me from painting myself into a corner.
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:54 am to wadewilson
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Now that's the kind of statement that'll get your lifetime NRA membership revoked.
I had to take one when I was a kid to be able to go hunting alone. Granted it was Hunters Ed but the majority of it just covered gun safety.Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:58 am to 5thTiger
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Obviously there are certain parts of national security and military operations that require the use of "high powered rifles"
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I'm sorry I don't want to categorize a "high powered rifle"
You use the term to try to validate your point. But when asked what you mean, you won't define it? This is exactly what the OP is talking about.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:04 am to MrLarson
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You use the term to try to validate your point. But when asked what you mean, you won't define it? This is exactly what the OP is talking about.
Fine, I'll cave. AK-47's. There is no need for a US citizen to have an AK-47. It is one example of a "high powered rifle" that I would deem inappropriate. If it is the best option for our military to use, I am perfectly fine with it being used for the military. While I recognize that an AK-47 is not legal, nor is it used by our military, it is simply a single example of a "high powered rifle" that you requested.
But now we are arguing specifics. Most on this thread are not open to suggestion about ANY form of regulation, or so they have stated.
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:10 am to 5thTiger
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Fine, I'll cave. AK-47's. There is no need for a US citizen to have an AK-47. It is one example of a "high powered rifle" that I would deem inappropriate. If it is the best option for our military to use, I am perfectly fine with it being used for the military. While I recognize that an AK-47 is not legal, nor is it used by our military, it is simply a single example of a "high powered rifle" that you requested. But now we are arguing specifics. Most on this thread are not open to suggestion about ANY form of control, or so they have stated.
I read the name of the thread and then this post and thought about the irony.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:13 am to 5thTiger
Ak47s are legal. Try again.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:13 am to stevengtiger
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I read the name of the thread and then this post and thought about the irony.
That post was a poor choice and will get ripped to shreds, doesn't seem very savvy for someone who supposedly hunts. Perhaps he exclusively hunts squirrels. Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:14 am to stevengtiger
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I read the name of the thread and then this post and thought about the irony.
It certainly would be ironic if I weren't a gun owner who hunts regularly.
Edit: I find it really entertaining that some of you cannot fathom that I am a gun owner who is open to suggestion for gun regulation. You don't have to be exclusively "All Guns!" or "Ban Guns!" you know. There is a middle of the road (or something near it).
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:16 am to 5thTiger
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It certainly would be ironic if I weren't a gun owner who hunts regularly.
I just simply don't believe you know anything about the subject. I would like to know what type of hunting you do(I already read your bowhunting preference) and what type of guns you own.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 11:34 am to stevengtiger
Sure. Listing my "credentials" is the least I can do. Starting with most recent.
Benelli Nova- as I mentioned before, I just received this from a client as a gift
Benelli ETHOS- Don't use it much, but its a nice mantel piece.
My first gun was a Ruger .22. Sold it.
My bow is a Hoyt Spyder ZT.
I mostly hunt deer nowadays, bow exclusively. In the past, especially in 4-H, I went turkey hunting. A group of friends head up to the Dakotas to go pheasant hunting, but that has slowed down as we have gotten older.
Never liked duck hunting. Can't call anything for shite.
Edit: this is going almost exactly like the last gun thread. I make a point about something, people want specific examples. I give one. then they don't believe that I own guns. Ask me to list them/what ammo do they use/whats the difference between bullets and shells/why do i bow hunt. It really is just running in circles.
Come to grips that there might be gun owners who might support gun regulation.
I don't like using shotguns due to hearing loss.
Benelli Nova- as I mentioned before, I just received this from a client as a gift
Benelli ETHOS- Don't use it much, but its a nice mantel piece.
My first gun was a Ruger .22. Sold it.
My bow is a Hoyt Spyder ZT.
I mostly hunt deer nowadays, bow exclusively. In the past, especially in 4-H, I went turkey hunting. A group of friends head up to the Dakotas to go pheasant hunting, but that has slowed down as we have gotten older.
Never liked duck hunting. Can't call anything for shite.
Edit: this is going almost exactly like the last gun thread. I make a point about something, people want specific examples. I give one. then they don't believe that I own guns. Ask me to list them/what ammo do they use/whats the difference between bullets and shells/why do i bow hunt. It really is just running in circles.
Come to grips that there might be gun owners who might support gun regulation.
I don't like using shotguns due to hearing loss.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 11:38 am
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