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re: Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution

Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:28 pm to
Pompous, self-satisfied, too important to be bothered with substantive refutation, and disdainful of critical analysis of their flawed hypothesis... playground rhetoric.....The only true remaining question is whether Darwinism will be fully debunked, as it is now interpreted, or whether it will go down kicking and screaming to the bitter end.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29286 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:23 pm to
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Darwinistic evolution works without any input other than through naturalistic means therefore it's inherently atheistic. That's the problem.


You are speaking gibberish. None of what you're saying is true.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:25 pm to
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quote: There are no Darwinists except from the religious right perspective. Sure there are Darwinists. The educational system is chock full of them. quote: For the sake of keeping our exchanges interesting, let me ask you: Are you interested in knowing, in great detail, how God created life? No, not really.


Then why on earth are you posting in this thread?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19406 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:27 pm to
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Pompous, self-satisfied, too important to be bothered with substantive refutation, and disdainful of critical analysis of their flawed hypothesis... playground rhetoric.....The only true remaining question is whether Darwinism will be fully debunked, as it is now interpreted, or whether it will go down kicking and screaming to the bitter end.




Evolve already.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Pompous, self-satisfied, too important to be bothered with substantive refutation, and disdainful of critical analysis of their flawed hypothesis... playground rhetoric.....The only true remaining question is whether Darwinism will be fully debunked, as it is now interpreted, or whether it will go down kicking and screaming to the bitter end.



I love how you idiots think this. Do you have any idea how much money would be involved if someone conclusively disproved evolution? It would turn science completely on its head as well as our understanding of our place in the world and universe. The guy who conclusively disproved it would make billions. So why then do 99% of scientists believe in it?
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4405 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:40 pm to
Idiots..how ironic......coming from someone who staunchly and unquestioningly believes the most tenuous scientific theory ever postulated. Leaping chasms of logic to construct a dubious, insubstantial house of cards, then demanding that it be presented to children as indisputable fact.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Idiots..how ironic......coming from someone who staunchly and unquestioningly believes the most tenuous scientific theory ever postulated. Leaping chasms of logic to construct a dubious, insubstantial house of cards, then demanding that it be presented to children as indisputable fact.


Did that take you all afternoon to write? I'm sure that thesaurus came in handy.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:45 pm to
Idiot is the wrong word. Plenty of relatively intelligent people refuse to believe in evolution for one reason or another.

Ignorant is really more applicable. Whether it is just a lack of knowledge about it or religious dogma saying they cant believe it, intelligence isnt really the deciding factor as it is independent of education and bias.

mattloc isnt stupid, he just has reasons for not believing that lie outside of the realm of science. He cant be convinced because he refuses to be.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:47 pm to
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Darwinistic evolution works without any input other than through naturalistic means therefore it's inherently atheistic. That's the problem.


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You are speaking gibberish. None of what you're saying is true


Point out where Darwinism embraces anything but naturalistic means for creation.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:48 pm to
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Then why on earth are you posting in this thread?


Isn't this about intelligent design vs. evolution?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:49 pm to
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intelligence isnt really the deciding factor as it is independent of education and bias.


I'd say if we did a poll to who believes in evolution and who doesn't, and then measure each side's IQ, the results will directly correlate, definitively I might add.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:54 pm to
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'd say if we did a poll to who believes in evolution and who doesn't, and then measure each side's IQ, the results will directly correlate, definitively I might add.


Doesn't have a thing to do with the truth or falsity of Darwinistic evolution.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:55 pm to
Given that 95% of the population's IQ falls between 90-120, I doubt the difference would be too striking. Plenty of people in churches across America are highly intelligent, and plenty of scientists are merely well educated but not particuarly intelligent.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 5:56 pm
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4405 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:57 pm to
Lol ...it never fails ....the old personal attacks directed at anyone who doubts the fairytale. Your IQ would not be one to raise the index, of that I am sure.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 5:58 pm to
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Doesn't have a thing to do with the truth or falsity of Darwinistic evolution.



Yeah it does, since smart people tend to examine evidence and conclude with which side has the most evidence. Evolution isn't an opinion. It's a fact.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:00 pm to
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Doesn't have a thing to do with the truth or falsity of Darwinistic evolution.


Of course not, but for unqualified people like yourself to tell qualified people they are wrong for no reason than your religious belief is misguided. I know very little about cars and thus I am not going to tell my mechanic he's doing it wrong.

Creationists always call us scientists arrogant, but is there any greater arrogance than telling someone they are wrong without even remotely understanding the subject in question?
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4405 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:00 pm to
I have no doubt you will come full circle one day Roger
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:02 pm to
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Evolution isn't an opinion. It's a fact.


Darwinistic evolution isn't a fact. It's based on a series of guesses and suppositions.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 6:02 pm to
If evidence comes along that disproves evolution, I will change my position. Thats the difference between me and you.
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