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re: Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:27 pm to beejon
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:27 pm to beejon
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Scientifically, can you prove that religion is the result of human evolution which is based on billion of random events promoting survival of the fittest?
No, nothing in science can be "proven".
I can provide far more evidence for this than you can of God, though.
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:28 pm to NATidefan
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I just don't understand what so threatening about it. On one hand a few things in the bible written by man (not God) are wrong. On the other hand, the universe is SOOOOooooo much more interesting and amazing. If I was religious, I'd want to believe in things like evolution and black holes and how big and old the universe is, it makes God even more amazing.
I enjoy scientific discoveries and the expansion of scientific frontiers such as the experiments being carried on by such scientific achievements as the Hadron collider. Very interesting and amazing stuff.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:30 pm to beejon
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The question becomes, what is the source of those chemical reactions in the brain? According to Darwinists, it's strictly naturalistic, soulless, Godless and meaningless except to produce a life form that they guess and suppose only reacts in order to promulgate the life form. That's the meaning of life to a Darwinist.
Meaning is always subjective. Just because one believes there is no objective meaning doesnt mean there isnt subjective meaning to be found.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:30 pm to beejon
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Scientifically, can you prove that religion is the result of human evolution which is based on billion of random events promoting survival of the fittest?
Well, you're proof enough, I think. You're a result of human evolution and you believe in God, am I right? Voila!
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:31 pm to beejon
Oh, so the part in the bible about how old the world is is wrong, but there's no way the part about how humans were made could be wrong.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
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No, nothing in science can be "proven".
Much in science can be proven. And I realize we're beginning to see the usual 'scientific' doublespeak that arises during these discussions. Proof doesn't really mean proof and evidence really doesn't mean evidence and truth really doesn't mean truth.
Bottom line, your view is based on your person guesses and suppositions. You've taken information available, analyzed it, and arrived at a conclusion. That's what I've done. We've simply arrived at different conclusions with our particular guesses and suppositions.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:33 pm to beejon
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I enjoy scientific discoveries and the expansion of scientific frontiers such as the experiments being carried on by such scientific achievements as the Hadron collider. Very interesting and amazing stuff.
Ironically, the Hadron collider has provided some of the best evidence yet that an original creator wasnt necessary for the universe to exist.
If it really interests you and you are wondering how nonbelievers can believe in "something from nothing", check out Lawrence Krauss. There is mounting evidence that the universe had a beginning entirely feee from causality due to the nature of quantum fluctuation.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:33 pm to Kentucker
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Well, you're proof enough, I think. You're a result of human evolution and you believe in God, am I right? Voila!
LOL. Well, kinda. I believe in God but I don't believe I'm the result of random, meaningless events.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:36 pm to beejon
Except my conclusion has physical evidence 
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:36 pm to beejon
that's because you're arrogant and you're too blinded by your faith to see it
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:37 pm to NATidefan
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Oh, so the part in the bible about how old the world is is wrong, but there's no way the part about how humans were made could be wrong.
I believe the bible is correct on how old the world is and also correct on how humans were made.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:37 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Except my conclusion has physical evidence
Nuh uh. :)
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:38 pm to beejon
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Much in science can be proven. And I realize we're beginning to see the usual 'scientific' doublespeak that arises during these discussions. Proof doesn't really mean proof and evidence really doesn't mean evidence and truth really doesn't mean truth.
The words proven and truth aren't really applicable in science because they insinuates absolutes. Scientific knowledge is constantly evolving, changing as new knowledge is gained. There is absolutely nothing absolute about science.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:38 pm to Manzielathon
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that's because you're arrogant and you're too blinded by your faith to see it
Back to ya!!
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:38 pm to beejon
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I believe the bible is correct on how old the world is and also correct on how humans were made.
now I know this all has to be a joke
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:40 pm to beejon
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LOL. Well, kinda. I believe in God but I don't believe I'm the result of random, meaningless events.
Well, you make random, meaningless statements so there's got to be something to it.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:41 pm to Kentucker
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Well, you make random, meaningless statements
Don't we all? :)
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:41 pm to beejon
Wait, how old do you believe the earth is?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:42 pm to beejon
Well then you don't much about hadron collider, cause it's basically anti religion machine when it comes to the age of the world and universe.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Wait, how old do you believe the earth is?
Probably 5-6 billion years old.
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