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Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I really dont get why so many people believe life would be meaningless if evolution were true. It doesnt change your subjective life experience at all.
I think some religious (the right wing) folks don't like evolution as it applies to humans. If it somehow exempted people, I think they'd be fine with it and accept it as the way God created life.
Why they'd accept acts of magic rather than the much slower process of evolution as God's method of creating humanity seems illogical. We can observe and explain evolution. There's just no explaining magic.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Even if we are only under the illusion of meaning, thats reason enough to enjoy life.
Yet when your child says I love you, you know it's just the chemicals talking?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:11 pm to mattloc
My point was, unless you have formal education in these sciences you arent really qualified to say the things you do.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:11 pm to Kentucker
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We can observe and explain evolution.
Nope, not Darwinistic (macro) evolution.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:12 pm to beejon
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FIFY. Evolution is a series of guesses and suppositions that attempts to describe all of biological nature, not limited to humanity.
It isnt guessing. Biologists arent just saying "well that sounds good, lets go with it".
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I really dont get why so many people believe life would be meaningless if evolution were true. It doesnt change your subjective life experience at all.
You obviously don't understand the pride some people feel by saying they are a Christian, lol.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:14 pm to beejon
Its chemicals talking whether or not evolution and God are true. Ask anyone who has ever had a psychotic episode, no matter what one believes about God we are completely at the mercy of the chemicals in our brains.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:14 pm to beejon
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Religion is promotion of the mechanism of survival of the fittest?
I don't know how you got to that question, but I think religion is a result of human evolution. Yes.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:15 pm to beejon
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Nope, not Darwinistic (macro) evolution.
He's right, we can.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:17 pm to beejon
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Nope, not Darwinistic (macro) evolution.
There's no such thing as macro evolution, or micro evolution either. Those are right wing buzzwords. There is only evolution.
There is observable evidence of evolution. Fossils are the most common form but DNA is beginning to dominate the field of study.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:20 pm to Roger Klarvin
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It isnt guessing. Biologists arent just saying "well that sounds good, lets go with it".
Sure it's guessing. There's zero evidence for undirected, random events producing the infinitely complex and tremendously varied life forms we observe today. There are many biologists who disagree with the view but are targets of Darwinistic witch hunts so many stay silent. But many don't.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:22 pm to NATidefan
I just don't understand what so threatening about it. On one hand a few things in the bible written by man (not God) are wrong. On the other hand, the universe is SOOOOooooo much more interesting and amazing. If I was religious, I'd want to believe in things like evolution and black holes and how big and old the universe is, it makes God even more amazing.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:22 pm to Kentucker
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There's no such thing as macro evolution, or micro evolution either. Those are right wing buzzwords.
This is the truth.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Its chemicals talking whether or not evolution and God are true. Ask anyone who has ever had a psychotic episode, no matter what one believes about God we are completely at the mercy of the chemicals in our brains.
The question becomes, what is the source of those chemical reactions in the brain? According to Darwinists, it's strictly naturalistic, soulless, Godless and meaningless except to produce a life form that they guess and suppose only reacts in order to promulgate the life form. That's the meaning of life to a Darwinist.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:23 pm to beejon
There's also zero evidence for the existence of a sky wizard but that sure hasn't stopped your ilk.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:26 pm to Kentucker
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I don't know how you got to that question, but I think religion is a result of human evolution. Yes.
You said..."I emphasized humanity because I think religion is a result of our advanced emotions."
Scientifically, can you prove that religion is the result of human evolution which is based on billion of random events promoting survival of the fittest?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:26 pm to beejon
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Sure it's guessing. There's zero evidence for undirected, random events producing the infinitely complex and tremendously varied life forms we observe today. There are many biologists who disagree with the view but are targets of Darwinistic witch hunts so many stay silent. But many don't.
Just saying it over and over again doesnt make it true.
And, once again, evolution isnt random. Mutation is random, natural selection is the opposite of random. Thats what many people just cant get.
Finally, we arent infinitely complex. At our most basic level we are actually pretty darn simple.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:26 pm to Roger Klarvin
Oh, and there arent many qualified biologists who believe evolution is a lie.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:27 pm to beejon
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There's zero evidence for undirected, random events producing the infinitely complex and tremendously varied life forms we observe today.
You couldn't possibly say this if you have a background in biology.
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There are many biologists who disagree with the view but are targets of Darwinistic witch hunts so many stay silent.
Boy! They sure are silent. I've never heard of any. Do you have links for any that aren't muzzled so I can read up on them?
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