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re: How do YOU feel about the Liberals' war on Christmas?

Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:33 pm to
I don't have any feelings towards something that is a figment of the religious right's imagination.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5530 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:03 pm to
I don't have a problem with it because Christmas is holiday based flawed principles. Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. Christmas is based on pagan principles and has little to nothing to do with Christian beliefs of the birth of christ. Somehow it evolved into that though.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:30 pm to
Axial tilt is the reason for the season!
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 6:30 pm to
TBH, they haven't done a very good job of it. Even the Puritans failed and they were accused of it in the late 1600s.

In Modern Day America the War has much darker roots:

quote:

Henry Ford was an avid proponent of the idea that someone—or more precisely, some group—was waging a war on Christmas. “Last Christmas most people had a hard time finding Christmas cards that indicated in any way that Christmas commemorated Someone's Birth,” according to The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem, a widely distributed set of anti-Semitic articles published in the automobile magnate’s newsweekly during the 1920s. “People sometimes ask why 3,000,000 Jews can control the affairs of 100,000,000 Americans. In the same way that ten Jewish students can abolish the mention of Christmas and Easter out of schools containing 3,000 Christian pupils.”

In 1959, it was the far-right John Birch Society that published a pamphlet alerting the nation to an "assault on Christmas" carried out by "UN fanatics...What they now want to put over on the American people is simply this: Department stores throughout the country are to utilize UN symbols and emblems as Christmas decorations.”



And those are just some highlights. The various groups accused go on for centuries.

But back to modern times... Neither Ford nor the John Birch Society of 1959 are things anyone should want to be associated with even now. This "War" has been going on for centuries and the motives have varied from racist/anti-semitic, anti-specific Christian groups, to political. It's shameful that it's been revised by media fearmongers stirring up otherwise good people - folks who honestly believe Christmas is somehow under attack.

Via politico:
LINK
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 6:31 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:19 pm to
frick Christmas. I'm a Festivus man. I made a donation in your name.....

Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 8:23 pm to
frick christmas and every other winter holiday. Everyone who celebrates any of them are nothing but a bunch of lazy, entitled pieces of shite and I hope they all get Ebola. Santa, Mohammed, Buddha, Hindu crazy hands guy, Abraham and jobu can bukakke each other to hell.

- thanksgiving sux too. I'll give thanks when I'm good and ready and not just because you say I should.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 8:27 pm
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 7:33 am to
quote:

The true meaning of Christmas was lost long ago when corporations made it about a mythical guy from the North Pole who gives out presents, for no other reason than to sell a bunch of merchandise


Before I was born and I am old, to point the finger at Liberals is just what the Merchandisers want, deflect the blame onto others our national pastime

Merry Christmas
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 7:36 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Liberals' war on Christmas?



This is a stupid generalization, and I'm not a liberal.

Most black people are liberal democrats and are one of the most "Christian" demographics in America.

Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:55 am to
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Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Anyone offended by "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas" is a giant pussy looking for a reason to be offended and not to be taken seriously.



Yeah this.

Although I will say that the people that use "X-Mas" are fricking annoying.

Use Happy Holidays if you don't like Christmas. Just seems like they are going out of their way to spit in people's faces that do.
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:04 am to
There's a group of atheists in memphis that have a winter solstice party with decorations and shite. That just seems ironic.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:07 am to
Also, its pretty smart for a business to say Happy Holidays. Christmas isn't the only religious holiday during this time. They are trying to cater to every possible customer and Happy Holidays encompasses everyone.

Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:07 am to
I saw some black Jews on Beale a couple mo this ago. Didn't know those existed.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:09 am to
I'm late on this thread but I wanted to share my FIL's take (he is a very conservative Christian), who shared this with me last year when the topic was being discussed:

I think his exact words were "hallelujah" to the notion that stores are leaving Christ out of Christmas. Stores are and have always been in it to make money. Taking Christ out of that means that Christians can focus on Christ in the right contexts: family, friends, helping the needy, and worship. Christ doesn't belong in the stores. He belongs in our hearts.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:10 am to
There's Korean baptists in memphis too with a pagoda outside the church.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:11 am to
Atheist Churches actually exist. If that's not an oxyretard I don't know what is
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
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46375 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:14 am to
Jesus told me to shop at Macy's
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:15 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 9:16 am to
The root words of "holiday" are "holy" and "day" so I don't see what the big deal is.

But many Christians are becoming good at playing the victim.
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